The Louis Theroux Podcast

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S8 EP2: Marco Pierre White discusses his rift with Gordon Ramsay, retiring from cooking, and having lunch with Margaret Thatcher

Explore episode Jun 15, 2026

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The Biopic That Never Was: Ridley Scott, Russell Crowe, and a Decision About Death

At 52:55 · chapter starts 50:15

The biopic story is one of the episode's most unexpected tangents. Ridley Scott signed Marco up, commissioned a screenplay, and cast Russell Crowe — fresh from Gladiator — to play him. Marco flew to Crowe's property in Australia and spent ten days there. Everything Marco said or did, Crowe filmed. Everything. Crowe's parents were kind and welcoming. Then Ridley and Russell fell out, and Marco had to choose a side. He chose Russell, on the logic that he had just invested ten days with him. But when the time came to renew the option, Marco said no. The reason he gives is quietly profound: he had read back through his own autobiography — The Devil in the Kitchen — reached the chapter about his mother's death, and put it down. He has not read the book since. Better, he reasons, to let someone make the film of his life after he is gone. While he is alive, he is still too close to it.

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