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Before Italy's 1990 World Cup semi-final in Naples against Argentina, Maradona publicly told Napoli fans that the Italian north had always hated and marginalised the south. A significant chunk of Italian fans cheered for Argentina. In northern Italy, Maradona would later win a poll for worst villain of the 20th century — with Hitler a distant fifth.
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The hosts frame Italia '90 as the moment football truly became big business. England, dogged through the 1980s by hooliganism and stadium disasters, achieves a kind of national rehabilitation. Cameroon's performances mark the breakthrough of African football on the world stage, with Roger Milla's celebrations becoming iconic. The Italian Mafia absorb FIFA's stadium construction contracts — which the hosts note is somehow more romantic than modern state-sponsored corruption, in the way that The Godfather is more romantic than Gianni Infantino. Maradona, his protection from Italian authorities eroded by his divisive Italia '90 stunts, is eventually exposed. Before a semi-final in Naples between Italy and Argentina, he publicly tells Napoli fans that the north has always despised the south — and a significant faction of Italian supporters cheer Argentina. In northern Italy, a subsequent poll names Maradona the worst villain of the 20th century, with Hitler a distant fifth [1] — Horatio Gould "They do a poll of most hated— worst villain of the 20th century in northern Italy, and he wins it by miles. Hitler's like distant fifth." 53:15 . Maradona's drug test failures mount; he eventually flees to Argentina, where he is found with 500 grams of cocaine but receives a minor punishment [2] — Horatio Gould "Maradona's shirt sold for ~£7–9 million: England player Steve Hodge, who swapped shirts with Maradona after the 1986 Hand of God game, late…" 51:50 .
England player Steve Hodge, who swapped shirts with Maradona after the 1986 Hand of God game, later sold the shirt for approximately £7–9 million.
After fleeing Italy, Maradona was busted in Argentina with approximately 500 grams of cocaine but received only a minor punishment.
Thomas's wife deferred her CrossFit career — she's in the global top 1% of athletes — to put him through law school debt-free. He wants her to chase the dream now; she wants the emergency fund and house down payment first. On a $200K lawyer income with no debt, the opportunity cost is just a few months of slower saving.
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Rico Verhoeven controlled the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion for approximately 10 rounds — and had his appeal upheld when officials admitted the fight was stopped after the bell. The result was never overturned. Rogan calls it either incompetence or corruption, and argues the money behind Usyk made an upset politically inconvenient.
Rogan lays out a blunt case: boxing's 3-judge system is structurally broken, and the judges know who the promoter wants to win. Glory's 5-judge format is the right model. Corruption doesn't have to be conscious — just knowing Usyk is the cash cow is enough to tilt the scales.
With the Usyk-Wilder fight stalling and Fury-Joshua coming too late, the real fight the world wants is the rematch. Rico is a free agent. Usyk vacated his belts. The story is unfinished and both Rogan and Rico know it. His Excellency Turki Alasheikh already called for it ringside — the question is money.
Rico texted Jason Statham during the Canelo-Crawford fight. Statham showed Rico's highlight videos to promoters. Two days later, Rico was on a call about fighting Anthony Joshua. When Joshua pulled out, Rico pitched Usyk himself — Undisputed vs. Undisputed. Usyk said yes in two weeks. The whole thing started with one text.
Every heavyweight who faced Usyk tried to move to the right — straight into his power hand. Rico and Peter Fury identified the obvious solution: move left, away from the left hand, and smother him with size. It sounds simple. Nobody had done it. That one adjustment was the foundation of 10 dominant rounds.
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