Podbit · The Louis Theroux Podcast
Cara revealed she had been previously engaged — and it wasn't publicly known. But the reasoning behind it was raw: she didn't believe in marriage, but engagement gave her one more hoop for a partner to jump through before leaving. It was about buying time against the inevitable abandonment she expected from everyone she loved.
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With drugs removed from the equation for the first time, Cara says her current relationship feels qualitatively different from everything that came before: the first experience of love that isn't filtered through substances or displaced by work. She is aware the intensity tips toward codependency — if the relationship isn't okay, she isn't okay — but considers it a more honest place to be than the numbness of before. Louis then asks about marriage; Cara says she does want a family, eventually. Then, almost in passing, she reveals she has previously been engaged — and it wasn't publicly known. She had also proposed to someone. She declines to name either party but offers a sharp psychological reading of why engagement appealed: it was an extra hoop for someone to jump through before they left. Not a desire for marriage — an anxiety management strategy. [1] — Cara Delevingne "Cara says her current relationship feels like the first time she has ever truly been in love, because she is finally experiencing it withou…" 34:35
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