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199. White House Shouting Match: Is Trump Sabotaging His Own Party?

Explore episode Jun 26, 2026

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'Regime Change': What Haberman and Swan Found Inside the Trump White House

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The second half opens with the hosts marvelling at the sourcing in Haberman and Swan's 'Regime Change' — a book that managed to get inside the Situation Room despite this White House being harder to leak from than Trump's first term. Scaramucci frames four main takeaways: first, this is an instinct-over-information presidency, a decision-making-of-one operation where whoever spoke to Trump last has shaped policy; second, Trump privately hates Netanyahu and the book documents how he browbeat him into releasing 20 living hostages; third, the pardon perimeter — Trump's stated plan to pardon everyone within 200-250 feet of the Capitol — is 'the most nutso thing' that is nonetheless 'totally on brand' according to a senior aide; and fourth, a forensic portrait of Stephen Miller as a fashion-conscious, superstitious Machiavellian who has never once ended up on the wrong side of Trump in 11 years. Katty Kay adds her own highlights: the psychological portrait of Trump getting a literal high from issuing pardons — the intoxicating mix of instant results, no constraints, and total indebtedness of recipients — is one of the book's most compelling passages. She also recounts the extraordinary scene where Trump berated JD Vance for not using the word 'obliterated' when describing Iran's nuclear program on Sunday shows, demanding that everyone simply copy his Truth Social post verbatim. The hosts agree: this book chronicles the dramatic arc from Trump's seemingly unstoppable first few months to the turning point around the Epstein files, and the contrast with where things stand now — losing, losing, losing — is striking.

Government
Stephen Miller: Fashion Icon, Political Survivor

199. White House Shouting Match: Is Trump Sabotaging His Ow… · Jun 26, 2026 Government

Stephen Miller is a fashionista who switched from a comb-over to a shaved head out of vanity, is deeply superstitious about keeping his old White House office, and has never once ended up on the wrong side of Trump in 11 years. Scaramucci calls it revolting Manichean court calculation. Haberman and Swan made it unforgettable.

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