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199. White House Shouting Match: Is Trump Sabotaging His Own Party?

Explore episode Jun 26, 2026

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Can a Jewish or Gay Candidate Win the Presidency? And What Does Netanyahu's Legacy Mean?

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The conversation deepens into the question of electability and identity. Katty Kay sets up the Josh Shapiro problem: he is a formidable governor of Pennsylvania with strong executive credentials, but his position on Israel — supporting US military aid while being critical of Netanyahu — is no longer viable in today's Democratic primary. She contrasts him with Jon Ossoff, the Georgia senator who has been sharply opposed to blanket military aid, and notes Ossoff is gaining momentum while Shapiro's numbers face headwinds. The Israel needle, she argues, can no longer be threaded. Scaramucci goes further — he asks the direct question: can a Jewish candidate win the presidency? His honest answer is no, and the same goes for Pete Buttigieg. Both men are clearly qualified, he says, but the country isn't there yet. On America's 250th anniversary, Katty Kay delivers a sobering coda: all men are still not created equal in the eyes of the electorate. The hosts then discuss Joe Scarborough's Monday monologue — which Scaramucci generously calls phenomenal — and his claim that Netanyahu has damaged the Israeli brand in America. Scaramucci reflects more personally, drawing on his visits to Yad Vashem and the historical assimilation of Jews in Germany, to ask whether it is fair to see Netanyahu as a disaster for that brand. Both agree it is fair. Kay adds the generational dimension: the Democrats now going to the polls have only ever known Netanyahu, and they associate the entire state of Israel with his actions.

Society & Culture
Can a Jewish or Gay Candidate Win the Presidency?

199. White House Shouting Match: Is Trump Sabotaging His Ow… · Jun 26, 2026 Society & Culture

Anthony Scaramucci asked bluntly: can a Jewish candidate or a gay candidate win the US presidency today? His honest answer is no — despite Josh Shapiro and Pete Buttigieg both being exceptionally qualified. On America's 250th anniversary, this is a sobering verdict on how far equality has actually come.

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