Podbit · The Rest Is Football
Robbie Keane told Mo Gilligan he needed someone who could actually play football at the back — so he paired him with Berbatov and Roberto Carlos. The resulting anarchy, including Mo telling Cafu to drop back, is one of the episode's funniest moments.
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Mo's anecdote about watching Brazil vs Morocco with his Brazilian fiancée — who poked him in the nose when Morocco scored, despite him not being on the pitch — sets the tone for the panel's warmth and banter. The conversation moves to Soccer Aid, where Robbie Keane asked Mo to play centre-back because 'you need someone that can actually play football at the back.' Mo was paired with Berbatov and Roberto Carlos, and at some point found himself so immersed in the game that he completely forgot he was lining up alongside Cafu. He turned and told the two-time World Cup winner to 'drop back a little bit', received a response in Portuguese he didn't understand, nodded politely, and carried on. The panel is in stitches. Gary asks how to say 'f*** off' in Portuguese, and Mo helpfully suggests asking his fiancée. [1] — Mo Gilligan "Mo Gilligan was so locked in at Soccer Aid that he completely forgot Cafu was a two-time World Cup winner and told him to drop back defensi…" 05:00
Mo Gilligan was so locked in at Soccer Aid that he completely forgot Cafu was a two-time World Cup winner and told him to drop back defensively. Cafu responded in Portuguese. Mo nodded and said 'yeah, cool cool' — never finding out what was actually said.
At Soccer Aid, Mo Gilligan became so immersed in the game that he forgot Cafu was a legendary Brazil international and told him to drop back defensively.
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