Podbit · 2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer
Bert is medically required to stay sober until July 12th due to blood thinners for his leg clot. His ideal return-to-drinking scenario: three days in the Caribbean, cocktail in the pool by morning, fully unplugged from the continental US. No Chicago, no New York — you need the sand and the distance.
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Bert opens up about the medical event behind his sobriety: a blood clot formed in his leg and traveled to his lungs, requiring blood thinners and complete alcohol abstinence. His first reaction was panic about the Super Bowl, the Daytona 500, and the South Beach Food and Wine Festival. [1] — Bert Kreischer "Blood clot forced sobriety: Bert Kreischer got a blood clot in his leg that traveled to his lungs, forcing him onto blood thinners and off …" 47:41 Three months in, he reports dramatically improved liver enzyme numbers (down to 18-20 from the mid-40s) and blood pressure good enough to come off medication. But he has no intention of staying sober beyond July 12th — and the three spend significant time debating the ideal location for his first drink back. Tom argues he needs to leave the country to truly unplug; the Caribbean is the consensus winner over Chicago and New York, which are great drinking cities but not 'go hard for three days' venues. Ari notes he's 92 days sober and also not drinking, though his sobriety isn't medically mandated.
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