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The $2 Trillion Question | Tobias Carlisle on SpaceX, the AI Buildout, and the Rotation No One Sees

Explore episode Jun 20, 2026
Business
Value Investing During Disruption: The Key Distinction

The $2 Trillion Question | Tobias Carlisle on SpaceX, the A… · Jun 20, 2026 Business

Value investing has worked consistently in non-disrupted industries throughout the current tech boom — the underperformance is concentrated in disrupted sectors. The challenge is identifying disrupted industries in advance. For non-disrupted businesses trading at discounts, value metrics have been remarkably reliable.

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Value investing during disruptive technology cycles

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Kai Wu's research shows value has worked consistently in non-disrupted industries throughout the tech boom. Carlisle explains the earnings recession in small/micro from 2022-2025 and why it's bottoming.

Business
Energy: 3% of Market Cap vs. 12% Historical — An Overlooked Opportunity?

The $2 Trillion Question | Tobias Carlisle on SpaceX, the A… · Jun 20, 2026 Business

Energy stocks represent just 3% of market cap versus a 12% historical average. AI data centers will consume energy voraciously, and Carlisle thinks nuclear is the only long-term solution — though natural gas bridges the gap. Oil equities are doing the opposite of what everyone expects right now.

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