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The J-Curve: Why We're Probably in the Trough Right Now
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The J-curve is Castleman's central analytical framework for understanding why AI seems both earth-shaking and imperceptible at the same time. Named for the shape of the letter J, it describes the pattern economists have observed repeatedly with transformative technologies: first, a dip, as companies struggle to figure out how to use the new tool (anyone remember the early, clunky days of video conferencing?), then a sharp upward surge once they crack the code and reorganize work around it. Kano-Youngs recognizes this in his own experience — he tries AI for a contact list, gets frustrated, and goes back to making calls. Castleman says that's exactly right: we are still in the scoop of the J, where AI may actually be making us less productive in the moment. New companies built from the ground up around AI will emerge; existing ones will figure out how to reorganize. Only then do the big economic impacts — productivity gains, and yes, job disruptions — really hit. [1] — Ben Castleman "New technology always looks awkward before it looks transformative. Economists call it the J-curve: initial productivity drops as companies…" 11:16
The internet wiped out entire job categories — typing pools, travel agents, bank tellers — but it did it slowly enough that people had time to retrain, redirect careers, and retire naturally. That gradualness is the single reason we remember the 1990s as a boom, not a crisis.
