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Mid-Roll: Jonathan Swan on Why Journalism Can't Be Outsourced to AI
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In a mid-episode subscription pitch that lands thematically on-point, Jonathan Swan makes his case for independent journalism with characteristic directness. His job, he explains, is to dig out information powerful people don't want published, to take listeners into rooms they'd never otherwise access — and that requires human reporters with human sources. 'There's no robot that can go and talk to someone who was in the Situation Room and find out what was really said,' he says. It's a 90-second riff that functions simultaneously as a fundraising ask and as a pointed counter-argument to the idea that AI can replace investigative journalism. Listeners are invited to consider subscribing to The New York Times.
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