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May Wants to Become a Forensic Pathologist: 11 Years of Med School at 33
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May's call closes the episode on an aspirational note: at 33, with her wife's support, she wants to reinvent herself as a forensic pathologist — one of the most demanding medical career tracks, requiring medical school, pathology residency, and a forensic fellowship spanning 11 to 13 years at roughly $14,000 per year in costs [1] — Jade Warshaw "May is 33, carries $69K in combined household debt, and wants to spend 11–13 years training to become a forensic pathologist at $14K/year i…" 2:04:08 . The couple currently carries $69,000 in combined debt and has budgeted that they can live on her wife's $4,000–$4,500/month if they are out of debt. Both George and Jade are enthusiastic about the goal — the ambition and willingness to sacrifice over a decade is admirable — but the prerequisite is ironclad: every dollar of the $69,000 must be gone before a single class begins. During the payoff phase, both partners need to be increasing income to also save the $14,000/year tuition. The hosts close by affirming that once the debt is clear, cash-flowing an 11-year medical education on two incomes is genuinely achievable.
May is 33, carries $69K in combined household debt, and wants to spend 11–13 years training to become a forensic pathologist at $14K/year in tuition. The prerequisite is non-negotiable: zero debt before a single class. Then, with the spouse earning $4,500/month and able to run the household debt-free, cash-flowing medical school is genuinely possible.
May, a 33-year-old with $69,000 in combined debt, is considering a forensic pathologist career that would require 11–13 years of medical school training.
Andrew earns $2,800/month with a $515 mortgage and no car payment, yet is behind on his gas and water bills and owes $8,000 to his aunt. George and Jade walk through his budget in real time and show that after mortgage, groceries, and utilities he has over $1,100 unaccounted for every month — the missing piece is a budget.