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Explore episode Jul 2, 2026

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Alex Pereira Goes Heavyweight, Cyril Gane, Francis Ngannou, and the Division Problem

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After Pereira's loss to Cyril Gane, Joe breaks down the biomechanical problem: fighting at 185 and 205, Pereira was already rehydrating to 220+ and 235+, but at 251 the weight looked burdensome rather than powerful. He argues Pereira might be better at 230-235. The conversation pivots to Cyril Gane's origin: he started as a basketball player, and that background — constant direction changes, plyometrics, coordination — explains why he's the most agile man at heavyweight. Joe laments that Francis Ngannou, the lineal heavyweight champion and arguably the most dangerous striker in the history of the division, isn't fighting in the UFC. He turns 40 in September, time is running short, and the impasse is robbing fans of what could be history-making fights.

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