We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

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Jake Hall’s Ex On Sudden Death: “I Wish He Called Me” | Missé Beqiri

Explore episode Jun 30, 2026

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Paul uses the closing segment to surface the episode's broader cultural argument: UK society has a deeply conservative relationship with death. The default is silence — don't mention the person's name, don't relive the pain, don't make anyone uncomfortable. But Missé has spent two hours doing the opposite, and in doing so has demonstrated something Paul believes matters: that normalising death, talking about it, refusing to treat grief as a problem to be fixed, is how we prevent the secondary harms of depression and PTSD. He praises Missé for being, in his view, more in love with who she is today than she has ever been. The episode ends with a brief additional audio segment touching on Missé's broader life — including a mention of a prior boyfriend who died in a car accident — before cutting to post-roll commercial content.

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