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UFOs, Demons, and the VP's Promise to Investigate
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Joe Rogan and Vance spend an extended and genuinely strange segment on UFOs. Vance confirms he has effectively unlimited access to classified information as VP but the constraint is time, not gatekeepers — the day-to-day of calling senators, negotiating with Iranians, and managing housing legislation crowds out UFO investigation. He recounts calling David Grusch after his Rogan appearance but remaining skeptical of claims that physical craft remains exist, primarily because he thinks something that significant would have leaked more concretely by now. [1] — JD Vance "Vance has effectively unlimited access to classified UFO files as VP but hasn't had time to investigate. He floated a theological theory: a…" 2:31:40 The conversation gets philosophical when Vance explains his 'demon' theory: a malicious, super-powerful, human-like being with what appear to be infinite capabilities that tortures humans is, to a 2026 human observer, indistinguishable from historical accounts of demonic entities. He's not saying they are literally demons — he's saying the conceptual boundary between 'alien' and 'demon' may not be as clear as secular culture assumes. Rogan walks him through Travis Walton, Commander David Fravor's Tic Tac encounter, and fighter pilot sightings of black cubes in spheres at stationary hover in 120-knot winds. Vance promises to spend 'a couple weeks' on this before his term ends — and then accidentally disqualifies himself by admitting on air that he'd tell people the truth if he found something, prompting Rogan to joke the government will never show it to him.
Vance has effectively unlimited access to classified UFO files as VP but hasn't had time to investigate. He floated a theological theory: a malicious, super-powerful, human-like extraterrestrial being that tortures humans is functionally indistinguishable from a demon, drawing on millennia of cross-cultural religious precedent. He promises to investigate within 2.5 years.
Vance says as VP he has effectively unlimited access to classified UFO information but has not yet had the time to investigate the files.
