#2526 - JD Vance

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UFOs, Demons, and the VP's Promise to Investigate

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Joe Rogan and Vance spend an extended and genuinely strange segment on UFOs. Vance confirms he has effectively unlimited access to classified information as VP but the constraint is time, not gatekeepers — the day-to-day of calling senators, negotiating with Iranians, and managing housing legislation crowds out UFO investigation. He recounts calling David Grusch after his Rogan appearance but remaining skeptical of claims that physical craft remains exist, primarily because he thinks something that significant would have leaked more concretely by now. ^{[1] — JD Vance "Vance has effectively unlimited access to classified UFO files as VP but hasn't had time to investigate. He floated a theological theory: a…" 2:31:40 Play} The conversation gets philosophical when Vance explains his 'demon' theory: a malicious, super-powerful, human-like being with what appear to be infinite capabilities that tortures humans is, to a 2026 human observer, indistinguishable from historical accounts of demonic entities. He's not saying they are literally demons — he's saying the conceptual boundary between 'alien' and 'demon' may not be as clear as secular culture assumes. Rogan walks him through Travis Walton, Commander David Fravor's Tic Tac encounter, and fighter pilot sightings of black cubes in spheres at stationary hover in 120-knot winds. Vance promises to spend 'a couple weeks' on this before his term ends — and then accidentally disqualifies himself by admitting on air that he'd tell people the truth if he found something, prompting Rogan to joke the government will never show it to him.

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UFOs: VP Has Access, Just No Time

#2526 - JD Vance · Jul 15, 2026 Science

Vance has effectively unlimited access to classified UFO files as VP but hasn't had time to investigate. He floated a theological theory: a malicious, super-powerful, human-like extraterrestrial being that tortures humans is functionally indistinguishable from a demon, drawing on millennia of cross-cultural religious precedent. He promises to investigate within 2.5 years.

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I will go to my deathbed believing there's a story there, but I can't prove it, and I promise you there's not some document that at least I'm hiding that allows us to prove exactly what was going on.

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If we're talking about an extraterrestrial being that is human-like, but not human, that contains effectively infinite powers and is torturing human beings, you can call it an alien if you want, but I think there's a lot of historical precedent to call that a demon.

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I'm just not a good liar.

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