Snapshot · All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In roughly 4 years, Saronic has raised $2.5 billion in private capital to fund R&D and shipyard development without relying on cost-plus government contracts.
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Mavroukas pauses to define cost-plus contracting for a general audience: the government pays whatever it takes plus a 10–15% margin, meaning a contractor literally earns more by delivering late and over budget. He's careful not to ascribe malice — the incentive structure does the work on its own. Saronic's answer is to reject the model entirely [1] — Dino Mavroukas "Under cost-plus contracts, a defense prime makes more money the longer a project takes and the more it costs. That's not a bug — it's been …" 21:25 . In roughly four years, the company has raised $2.5 billion in private capital and deployed it on R&D and physical assets. When Saronic decided to build Marauder — a 180-foot autonomous warship — they did it on IRAD, internal research and development funds, without waiting for a government contract. That's the reverse of what legacy primes do, where investor pressure demands share buybacks rather than long-term investment. Mavroukas welcomes the current administration's push toward acquisition reform and firm fixed-price contracting, but issues a frank caveat: the transformation is in its earliest days, and the 1% of the defense budget currently allocated to autonomous systems needs to multiply many times over if the US is to close the gap with China.
Under cost-plus contracts, a defense prime makes more money the longer a project takes and the more it costs. That's not a bug — it's been the system for decades. Saronic is building on firm fixed-price contracts with private capital instead.
Dino Mavroukas noted that only 1% of the Department of War's budget is allocated to autonomous systems — far below what he believes is necessary.
Iran's strategy in the Strait of Hormuz relies on cheap mass — fast attack vessels, drones, floating mines — to overwhelm traditional manned warships. Saronic's answer is to out-mass them with autonomous Corsairs, built at 2,000 per year, that can counter every threat vector without putting a single sailor at risk.
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