Snapshot · SOLVED with Mark Manson
Just as 5–10% of therapy patients report feeling worse after therapy, a comparable share of meditators may experience negative effects including increased anxiety or rumination.
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Birnie flags the emergence of research documenting genuine harm from meditation — a literature that he and Manson both acknowledge has been systematically underreported [1] — Mark Manson "5–10% of meditators feel worse: Just as 5–10% of therapy patients report feeling worse after therapy, a comparable share of meditators may …" 43:16 . The risks are highest for people with unresolved trauma, where sitting silently can trigger dysregulation, dissociation, or vivid re-experiencing of traumatic memories. People with generalized anxiety disorder or OCD face similar risks. Neither host has reliable percentage figures — that data apparently doesn't exist yet — but Manson estimates the negative-outcome rate at roughly 5–10%, mirroring what's known about therapy. The key concept the episode lands on is 'person-practice fit': the practice has to match the person, not just in terms of preference but in terms of psychological safety. For high-risk individuals who still want to explore meditation, Birnie insists on two non-negotiables: expert supervision and a highly structured protocol. 'Don't just hop on YouTube and find a trauma meditation,' he says. Manson closes by noting that medication is virtually the only intervention with a near-universal positive profile — almost everything else, including therapy, has a meaningful negative-outcome minority.
For people with unresolved trauma, sitting in silence can trigger dysregulation, dissociation, or re-experiencing. Negative effects are almost certainly underreported in the research. Anyone with trauma history should approach meditation only under expert supervision.
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