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Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Explore episode Jun 21, 2026

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Shibani Mahtani's Investigation: Who Are the Scam Workers?

At 4:08 · chapter starts 3:58

Back from the sponsor break, Shibani Mahtani takes over the narrative and describes the human landscape she encountered in Phnom Penh this spring: hundreds of former workers from at least 35 countries streaming toward embassy gates, unable to get home. She interviewed dozens, finding that most were Chinese or Indonesian, but she was struck by the number of Africans — particularly Ugandans — who had been recruited into the English-language scam operations targeting Western victims. Most were cautious about sharing details, aware that the syndicates were still operating. It was through her Cambodian journalist friend and fixer Met Dara — who also drives a tuk-tuk — that she was introduced to Shoaib, a 24-year-old Ugandan man. Their first meeting at a Cambodian burger chain called Lucky Burgers was revealing: Shoaib seemed nervous at first, but once he started talking, he couldn't stop.

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