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The socialists are coming!

Explore episode Jul 2, 2026

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2028 and the Dream of a Socialist on the Debate Stage

At 27:51 · chapter starts 27:20

The episode closes with Rohmer laying out the DSA's presidential ambitions in the clearest terms yet. She frames it as a two-tiered goal: winning the presidency would obviously be the ideal outcome, but the minimum viable outcome is having a democratic socialist voice in the debates — someone who can hold other candidates accountable and force them to take positions. She cites Bernie Sanders as the proof of concept: his uncompromising advocacy for Medicare for All during the 2016 and 2020 primaries pushed other candidates to sign Medicare for All pledges. For Rohmer, that's not a consolation prize — it's a genuine mechanism for moving the party. She also credits Sanders with normalizing the word 'socialist' in American politics, breaking 'the dam' on the big scary S-word and giving a generation of activists permission to say it out loud.

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