Kevin Hartnett argued that even achieving a gold medal at the IMO represents essentially zero percent of the way to the frontier of research mathematics.
Snapshot · Hard Fork
Kevin Hartnett argued that even achieving a gold medal at the IMO represents essentially zero percent of the way to the frontier of research mathematics.
Where this was said
At 33:16 · chapter starts 28:18
Kevin Hartnett, former senior reporter for Quanta Magazine and current editorial lead at Cursor, joins the show to contextualize the rapid development of AI math capabilities. He recounts the arc from ChatGPT's early failures at basic arithmetic — mathematicians passed around examples of it claiming there are finitely many primes — to the IMO gold medal scores achieved by Google DeepMind, OpenAI, and Harmonic in 2025 [1] — Kevin Roose "AI math: IMO gold medal score: Three AI labs — Google DeepMind, OpenAI, and Harmonic — achieved gold medal scores at the International Math…" 31:38 . But Hartnett provides crucial context: even gold-medal performance at the IMO is 'essentially high school math, the hardest high school math in the world, but still just high school math' — representing roughly 0% of the way to frontier research mathematics [2] — Kevin Hartnett "AI at IMO = 0% of frontier math: Kevin Hartnett argued that even achieving a gold medal at the IMO represents essentially zero percent of t…" 33:16 . He explains why AI labs focused on math: the belief that teaching a model to reason through mathematical problems develops general-purpose logical reasoning that unlocks commercially valuable capabilities. The hosts also walk through the Erdős problem landscape: Paul Erdős compiled over 1,200 open mathematical problems with small cash bounties, and AI labs have been systematically working through them as capability benchmarks — though Hartnett notes most Erdős problems were not considered important by the mathematical community, more like 'sophisticated Wordle puzzles.'
On May 20th, OpenAI announced a model had disproved a longstanding geometry conjecture — the unit distance conjecture — by identifying a new mathematical approach no human had previously considered.
Three AI labs — Google DeepMind, OpenAI, and Harmonic — achieved gold medal scores at the International Math Olympiad last summer, a feat once considered impossible.
AI labs didn't pursue mathematics for its beauty — they pursued it because teaching a model to reason through hard math problems builds the general-purpose reasoning skills that power everything else. As Kevin Hartnett puts it: math is to AI what 'teaching you how to think' was to your high school math teacher.
Mathematician Paul Erdős compiled over 1,200 problems during his lifetime, offering small cash prizes for their solutions — prizes that AI labs are now claiming.
A large Harvard study found that a wandering mind is an unhappy mind — people report greater happiness when their attention is tethered to the present, even if the task is unpleasant.
A key study finding that we have a 'credit card's worth of plastic' in our bodies was likely skewed because researchers used nitrile gloves that shed plastic particles onto the microplastic detector.
Emotionally sensitive people have a hyperactive amygdala, an underactive prefrontal cortex, and a frayed connection between the two — making emotional regulation structurally harder.
Rejection sensitivity can be observed as early as age 2 or 3, suggesting it has strong developmental and likely genetic roots.
A Yale study found that non-judgmental observation of emotions — without rushing to resolve them — reduces activation in the brain, making it a powerful regulation tool.
Dan Gilbert's research found that the psychological immune system — the brain's ability to justify and find satisfaction in choices — activates most powerfully when a decision is perceived as irreversible.
Barry Schwartz's research found that maximizers — people who try to optimize every decision — tend to achieve objectively better outcomes but report lower happiness than satisficers who choose 'good enough.'
Research consistently shows that while people may initially regret poor decisions, in the long run they regret the decisions they didn't make — inaction — far more than the ones they took.
A study showed that men in committed relationships who briefly viewed 10 attractive women's faces reported a measurable decrease in relationship satisfaction immediately afterward, illustrating evolutionary mismatch with modern media.
We use essential and analytics cookies to run Vuci. To understand how the site is used: Privacy Policy.
Install Vuci on your phone
Add it to your home screen for a faster, app-like experience.
Install Vuci on your phone
Tap the Share button, then “Add to Home Screen”.
A new version is available
Reload to get the latest Vuci.