Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Snapshot · Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Susie Wolff (Managing Director of F1 Academy)

Explore episode Jun 24, 2026

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Testosterone, Red Mist, and Whether Biology Limits Women in Racing

At 25:08 · chapter starts 24:15

Dax plays devil's advocate for a sceptical audience: doesn't testosterone give male drivers an inherent edge in aggression? Susie doesn't dismiss biology but argues it comes down to individuals. Then she drops the disclosure: during her career, a routine medical found she had unusually high testosterone levels. Doctors wanted to use her results as a study template for female racing drivers. She thought about it overnight and said no — she didn't want to be singled out, and she felt her results should simply define what a competitive female driver looks like. Dax adds the feedback loop argument: higher-risk behaviour raises testosterone, which drives more risk-taking. Susie's counterpoint is the clincher — 'red mist and over-aggression is a real negative' in racing. She cites Max Verstappen as the exception that proves the rule.

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