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AI Tools, Software Stocks, and Why SaaS Isn't Dead

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Sam asks about public software markets — is this a generational buying opportunity? Aaron declines to give direct investment advice given macro volatility (he calls it 'chip trade week'), but makes a structural argument that is both contrarian and compelling. System-of-record software — ERP, CRM, contract management — is embedded in the core operational guts of enterprises. These are not things that get replaced because someone vibe-coded a prototype over the weekend. ^{[1] — Aaron Levie "You built something in a week. That's great. Ford is not replacing its SEC-accountable ERP system with your vibe-coded prototype. Enterpris…" 51:20 Play} Ford is not replacing its SEC-accountable ERP system with a tool built in an afternoon. The vibe code can stand up a prototype; running a global supply chain is a different matter entirely. But the more interesting argument is about upside. AI agents need to do useful work inside enterprises, and to do that they need access to data that lives inside existing systems — with the right permissions, guardrails, and workflow design already in place. That comes from existing software. Box is already seeing increased usage as agents roam around accessing stored data. ^{[2] — Aaron Levie "Anthropic's Claude Tag launched inside Slack — not as a Slack replacement. That's the signal. AI needs the permission boundaries and collab…" 55:40 Play} Anthropic's Claude Tag launching inside Slack, not as a Slack replacement, is the clearest signal: intelligence layers on top of deterministic software; it doesn't replace it. The future isn't AI or SaaS — it's AI plus SaaS, with consumption-based monetisation emerging as agents drive more headless access to those systems. Sam closes by noting HubSpot's 2.5x revenue market cap and 30% annual growth, and Aaron affirms: vibe coding will probably be built on top of existing data stacks, not in place of them.

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Why Vibe Coding Won't Kill Enterprise Software

I dropped out of college and built a $3.6B company from scr… · Jul 2, 2026 Technology

You built something in a week. That's great. Ford is not replacing its SEC-accountable ERP system with your vibe-coded prototype. Enterprise software systems are in the core guts of companies, and agents need deterministic software with the right permissions, guardrails, and workflow design. The real story is the opposite of SaaS dying: agents driving more usage of existing software.

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I don't necessarily equate to, well, then like Ford is going to go and replace their ERP system with that vibe-coded thing. Like, yes, you were able to stand up a prototype that was functional, but that's just like totally different from like running your enterprise that is held accountable to the SEC and a global supply chain on powering that.

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Claude Tag Launched in Slack — AI and SaaS Are Not Zero Sum

I dropped out of college and built a $3.6B company from scr… · Jul 2, 2026 Technology

Anthropic's Claude Tag launched inside Slack — not as a Slack replacement. That's the signal. AI needs the permission boundaries and collaborative structure that existing software already provides. Box is seeing increased usage because agents need access to the unstructured data Box manages. Intelligence is a substrate that layers on top of deterministic software; they're not competitors.

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Instead of it sort of being like, well, Claude wins, so SaaS loses, you actually can be like, oh no, actually this is this intelligence substrate... it's probably going to also exist within deterministic software that also has a bunch of use cases.

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