Snapshot · The Shawn Ryan Show
Jen Lilley encountered a woman at the National Foster Parents Association who disclosed making $28,000 per month from foster care by deliberately keeping children on medications and failing them in school to raise their reimbursement rate.
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Jen Lilley delivers a concentrated burst of statistics with explicit sourcing caveats — she acknowledges numbers vary by study, funding source, and sample — but presents what she describes as the current figures. Children who age out of foster care without adoption or guardianship face catastrophic outcomes: at least 46% end up homeless by 26; only 3% earn a college degree by 26; only about half graduate high school or get a GED; boys are 5 times more likely to be arrested than their peers; girls are 14 times more likely; boys are 6 times more likely to be convicted of a crime; about half will develop substance abuse problems; girls are twice as likely to get pregnant before 21. The crowning statistic: foster kids represent less than 1% of children in the U.S., but 17-20% of people in American prisons and jails came from foster care. Every statistic, Lilley insists, represents a child — not a number.
A woman at the National Foster Parents Association openly told Jen Lilley she made $28,000 a month fostering — by deliberately failing children in school and keeping them on unnecessary medications to drive up their government reimbursement tier. The incentive structure meant to help kids is being weaponized against them.
According to a May 2026 HHS survey, there are currently 344,000 children in U.S. foster care.
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