Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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Ep 620 - In Defense of Sunlight (feat. Rowan Jacobsen)

Explore episode Jun 18, 2026

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The Science Case for Sunlight: Endorphins, Nitric Oxide & Immune Modulation

At 11:00 · chapter starts 10:20

Rowan Jacobsen describes a writing career that began in book publishing, shifted to ghostwriting — which he found ego-free and useful as a craft exercise — and then landed in food writing after editing a 'persnickety' gourmet magazine in Vermont in the early 2000s. His oyster book accidentally made him the go-to expert on the topic, and he accepts the food writer label with good humor ('better than being the proctology writer'). The throughline, he explains, was always folding science into food writing — curiosity about where things come from and what makes them taste the way they do.

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