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Obama's new Presidential Center and his tricky relationship with the South Side

Explore episode Jul 3, 2026

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Young People on the South Side and a Complicated Legacy

At 12:15 · chapter starts 11:00

Gene Demby pivots to ask how younger South Siders — who have no memory of a pre-Obama America — relate to his legacy. Myra Kwadja's answer is quietly devastating: the students she worked with at Hyde Park Academy found nothing remarkable about a Black president, not because they were inspired but because they were disengaged. Their entire relationship with government was mediated through policing: cop cars stationed outside the school expecting a fight, the constant surveillance of young Black bodies in public space. When Kwadja took students to vote after they turned 18, or interviewed those who didn't want to, she found that participating in civic life felt indistinguishable from submitting to police authority. Obama's visits to Hyde Park Academy were cool — he's a celebrity, after all — but they produced no 'me too, I could be that' feeling. The children who grew up in Obama's Chicago did not inherit his hope. They inherited his neighborhood's policing.

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