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JRE MMA Show #181 with Justin Gaethje & Trevor Wittman

Explore episode Jun 20, 2026

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Weight Cutting Dangers, Ilia at 55 vs. 45, and Future Division Planning

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Rogan raises the question of whether Topuria will stay at 155 or go back down to featherweight, noting that Topuria is a smaller body while Gaethje is considerably larger. Gaethje reveals he was 183 in the Paddy fight and 184 lbs going to bed the night before the title fight, waking at 176 — that's how much water the body sheds overnight after a cut. Wittman raises the coaching concern: for fighters who struggle to make weight, the risk of being dropped by a jab from a dehydrated brain is terrifyingly real. Rogan asks whether more weight classes are needed. Gaethje, as an athlete, says he wants nothing changed — grown men and women make their own choices. Wittman is more measured, suggesting weight measurement could move earlier in the week to allow proper recovery, rather than the current same-day or next-day weigh-ins.

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Why Weight Cutting May Be Killing Boxers

JRE MMA Show #181 with Justin Gaethje & Trevor Wittman · Jun 20, 2026 Health & Fitness

Almost every boxing death in the last 10–15 years happens after round 9, often to fighters who are winning and not taking much damage. Wittman believes chronically dehydrating the brain through extreme weight cuts may be cracking the brain like dried lips, creating lethal vulnerability late in fights.

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