The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

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Why OpenAI Bought a Podcast — with TBPN’s John Coogan and Jordi Hays

Explore episode Jul 9, 2026

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Bending Spoons IPO Analysis

At 44:55 · chapter starts 42:50

Bending Spoons is pricing its IPO and Galloway runs the numbers live: Q1 2025 revenue of $270M with a $120M loss has flipped to $625M in Q1 2026 with $27M profit — a roughly $2.5B annualised run rate. The valuation at $18-20B implies approximately 8x revenue, reasonable for a SaaS business with 88% recurring revenue. The bear case is leverage: 4x debt-to-EBITDA is aggressive, and organic growth is only 13%. Coogan's counter is structural: legacy brands like AOL that have already survived cloud disruption, mobile disruption, and social disruption are the most defensible businesses in tech. Nobody is vibe-coding an AOL competitor in 2026. The business runs on long-term advertiser relationships, not venture growth dynamics, which makes it genuinely different from what kills most tech startups.

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Bending Spoons IPO: Legacy Brands With AI Efficiency

Why OpenAI Bought a Podcast — with TBPN’s John Coogan and J… · Jul 9, 2026 Business

Bending Spoons — the Italian company behind AOL, Vimeo, and WeTransfer — is pricing its IPO at $18-20B on a $2.5B revenue run rate with 88% recurring revenue. Galloway likes the concept; Coogan argues legacy brands that survived cloud, mobile, and social disruption are almost impossible to kill. The bear case: 4x levered debt and barely organic growth.

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Reading a Ramp Ad to Mark Zuckerberg

Why OpenAI Bought a Podcast — with TBPN’s John Coogan and J… · Jul 9, 2026 Business

TBPN found a way to put ads in front of the most ad-immune people on earth. Before his live interview, Mark Zuckerberg sat with headphones on while John Coogan read him a Ramp ad. The in-studio screen showed sponsor logos. Then every clip shared afterward ended with a full ad read. The reach per dollar is enormous — because the audience is exactly who the advertiser wants.

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Snap: The Most Undervalued Company in Tech?

Why OpenAI Bought a Podcast — with TBPN’s John Coogan and J… · Jul 9, 2026 Business

Snap is projected to do over $6 billion in revenue this year while trading at only a $7 billion market cap — implying roughly an 80% discount. Galloway says the real unlock would be spinning out its Spectacles hardware division. The counterargument: Evan Spiegel seems comfortable being the young billionaire CEO of an online nation of Zoomers and has little incentive to change.

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