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How to Build a $200M App Without Showing your Face w/ Chris Josephs

Explore episode Jul 10, 2026

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The Pelosi Tracker Origin Story

At 3:19 · chapter starts 0:44

The Pelosi Tracker didn't start as a media empire — it started as a desperate growth hack. Chris Josephs was building IRIS, a social investing app designed to create a shareable layer on top of Robinhood and Fidelity portfolios during COVID's retail trading explosion. He noticed tweets about Pelosi's stock trades going viral and saw an angle: what if people could automate following her trades? He recreated her portfolio inside IRIS, got behind a camera, and posted a TikTok. The result was instant: the app shot to the top 50 in the App Store, NPR reached out for the company's first media interview, and the concept took on a life of its own. The personal TikTok account grew to 100,000 followers, and the app racked up 250,000 to 300,000 downloads — entirely organic. What started as a performance-led growth stunt had become the seed of a media empire.

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