All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Snapshot · All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

More Trillion Dollar IPOs, Anthropic $3T, Zuck's Price War, China Ends Open Source?, Trump Accounts

Explore episode Jul 11, 2026

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CCP considering export controls on Chinese models, is open source ending in China?

At 1:03:08 · chapter starts 54:29

Jason pivots to the week's geopolitical AI story: Reuters, citing anonymous sources, reported that Chinese regulators held meetings with Alibaba, ByteDance, and ZhipuAI to discuss limiting overseas access to China's top AI models — both open and closed. The CCP is simultaneously making AI research leaks a national security offense and tightening control over who can fund Chinese AI labs. Manus, a Chinese agentic AI startup, had employees pulled back from Singapore by the CCP. Sacks walks through why this makes sense: Chinese labs like Alibaba's Qwen and ZhipuAI's GLM went open specifically because they were behind the frontier and needed developer adoption and reinforcement learning from usage. Now that they're catching up, the economic logic shifts toward closing. He draws the explicit parallel to Sam Altman, who took OpenAI from open to closed in exactly the same move. Brad adds a provocative claim: GLM 5.2 contains watermarks from Anthropic's models, suggesting distillation — effectively downloading frontier intelligence built with American capital. He expects the US government to take steps against distillation. Brad also reports from his DC meetings that from the president down, the single unifying principle in Washington is doing everything necessary to stay ahead of China in AI.

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