BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 74% of Americans believe society still discourages asking for help.
370. The First British Indians: Saving Jews In Nazi Germany (Ep 2)
An Indian princess living in Nazi Germany used her British royal title as a guarantee to smuggle Jewish families out of the Gestapo's reach — and almost no one knew her name until now.
Empire: World History
370. The First British Indians: Saving Jews In Nazi Germany (Ep 2)
An Indian princess living in Nazi Germany used her British royal title as a guarantee to smuggle Jewish families out of the Gestapo's reach — and almost no one knew her name until now.
TL;DR
The hidden story of Princess Catherine Duleep Singh — daughter of the last Maharaja of the Punjab — who spent half a century in Germany with her beloved companion Lena Schäfer, survived two World Wars, and quietly became the "Indian Schindler," guaranteeing British visas for Jewish families fleeing the Gestapo [1] — Anita Anand "British refugee policy in the 1930s required a named British citizen of standing to personally guarantee every Jewish refugee seeking entry…" 32:10 . Hosts William Dalrymple and Anita Anand trace her journey from Somerville College Oxford to Nazi-era Kassel, where she risked everything to help at least six families escape, before dying in Buckinghamshire in 1942 [2] — Anita Anand "In 2002, a stranger walked into historian Peter Bunz's office and said: 'My mother and my uncles and my grandparents were saved by Princess…" 38:30 . The single most powerful takeaway: one brown-skinned Indian princess, leveraging only her British passport and royal title, saved lives no one else would [3] — Anita Anand "Schindler saved 1,200 lives: Historian Peter Bunz, who coined the term 'Indian Schindler' for Catherine, noted that Oskar Schindler saved 1…" 34:20 .
Episode 2 of the First British Indians series traces the hidden history of Princess Catherine Duleep Singh — her lifelong companion Lena Schäfer, her years in Nazi Germany, and her role as the 'Indian Schindler' who rescued Jewish families from the Gestapo.
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The episode opens with back-to-back sponsor reads. William Dalrymple champions the London Review of Books as 'the most wonderful journal in the country,' inviting listeners to try three months free at lrb.me/trial. A pre-recorded segment follows for BetterHelp, citing the platform's own 2026 State of Stigma report finding that 74% of Americans feel society discourages asking for help. Medical advertisements for Tremfya follow. Finally, Attio — billed as an AI CRM — is presented with an Empire-themed pitch about managing information across growing organisations, with a free trial available at attio.com/empire.
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William Dalrymple opens the substantive episode by situating it as the second in a series that Anita Anand pioneered with her book on Sophia Duleep Singh, noting the accompanying London exhibition and growing public awareness of the family's extraordinary story. Where Episode 1 covered Sophia's suffragette activism, Episode 2 turns to Catherine — a woman who chose a radically different path, one that took her to a German town called Kassel in Prussia with her intimate companion, who happened to be her childhood governess. Dalrymple frames the central paradox immediately: a brown-skinned Indian princess, the sister of a British army officer, cohabiting with another woman, living in Nazi Germany. It is a premise that sounds impossible — and yet it happened.
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Anita Anand paints a vivid portrait of the three Duleep Singh sisters as they were presented as debutantes before Queen Victoria: eldest Bamba fierce and unsmiling, youngest Sophia pliable and anglicised, and Catherine in the middle — the most beautiful, with an enigmatic stillness. Their guardian Lord Heneker dispatched regular reports on the girls, congratulating himself on improving these 'poor neglected children' once removed from their 'malign family's influence.' Skin tone shaped perception even within the family: Catherine and Sophia, lighter-skinned, were considered prettier. Anand notes the tragic backstory: their mother died in 1887 and their father effectively abandoned them to a dissolute end in a Paris hotel, leaving the sisters in the care of guardians and tutors — including a drill sergeant, a deportment teacher, and finally a German governess.
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Queen Victoria, who trusted German governesses above all others for their discipline, brought Lena Schäfer into the Duleep Singh household. Lena is described as kind and gentle — exactly the stable maternal presence that the traumatised, orphaned Catherine craved at sixteen. What begins as dependence transforms into something more durable: when Catherine goes up to Somerville College Oxford, Lena comes too, despite there being younger siblings at home who arguably needed a governess more. Anita Anand reads the relationship carefully — she spent over a decade with these women's archives — and concludes that what kindles at Somerville and continues for forty years is 'a loving relationship.' Whether sexual or not, it is acknowledged by Sophia, a notorious prude, who uses the word 'intimate' and never once questions the fact that Catherine and Lena are a package deal.
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The conversation turns to what kind of relationship Catherine and Lena actually had, and what the consequences might have been. Dalrymple notes that male homosexuality faced brutal criminalisation — Oscar Wilde received two years hard labour in 1895 — and asks whether women faced similar risks. Anand's answer is striking: no equivalent law existed for women, because the Victorian legal mind simply could not conceive that women would 'do such a thing.' This invisibility cut both ways: it protected Catherine and Lena from prosecution, but it also meant their relationship would be invisible to history. Anand is careful to avoid imposing modern categories, while being clear that the evidence — inseparability, financial interdependence, Sophia's own word 'intimate' — points overwhelmingly to a loving bond.
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Following her studies at Somerville, Catherine leaves with a third-class honours in French and German — an education almost no woman of her generation possessed, even without a formal degree. She and Lena then undertake the Grand Tour, the aristocratic tradition of extended European travel as education and self-discovery. The housekeeper Margaret Mays records her unimpressed reactions to Germany and enthusiastic responses to Italy; Egypt moves the sisters deeply because their mother was born in Alexandria. But quietly, and without announcing it, Catherine has resolved during this trip that Germany — seen through Lena's eyes — is where she wants to live. There is no family connection, no practical reason. She simply chooses it, and sets up home in Kassel with Lena.
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Kassel is described as a prosperous, slightly sleepy German university town set in a valley surrounded by beech forests — the town where the Brothers Grimm collected many of their fairy tales. For Catherine and Lena it is domestic bliss: Lena cooks restorative German food, the air is delightful, and Catherine writes to Sophia tempting her to visit and recover from what sounds like an eating disorder. From this happy distance, Catherine watches Sophia's suffragette campaigns with bemused but real support, sending money to Millicent Fawcett's non-militant wing. Anand suggests Catherine's support for women's rights was perhaps sharpened by her own unconventional situation — a relationship that could, at some point, have been criminalised. Meanwhile, Sophia and Bamba seethe in Hampton Court's grace-and-favour apartments, surrounded by what they consider the architects of colonial violence against their family.
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The First World War catches Catherine on the wrong side of the border. As a British citizen, she has every right to return home; she refuses, because Lena — a German — cannot leave. Sophia bombards the India Office with requests to extract her, and the authorities monitor the situation. Then Catherine's secret letter to Sophia is intercepted: it describes Germany as orderly and peaceful, calls the war unjust, and — using a coded star symbol — begs her brother Victor not to fight. Anand reads it aloud: it amounts to suborning treason. William Dalrymple notes this is a period of total censorship, and the letter goes into a file alongside an assessment that Catherine is 'decidedly pro-German' but 'not a serious threat.' She is left to remain in Germany. Only in 1918, starving and with Lena seriously ill, does Sophia succeed in extracting her via the Dutch embassy in Berlin — on Armistice Day itself. [1] — Anita Anand "Catherine wrote a secret letter to her sister Sophia during WWI urging their brother Victor not to fight against Germany, calling the war '…" 22:00
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The moment Catherine is strong enough after WWI, and the moment borders allow, she returns to Lena in Kassel. Through the 1920s — the era of Weimar Germany, of Babylon Berlin, of unprecedented same-sex visibility and cultural experimentation — Catherine and Lena live in what the former calls 'domestic bliss.' Dalrymple evokes the world of Cabaret and Babylon Berlin, noting how little this era of German openness is remembered now. Catherine describes them as 'happy little church mice,' wandering around and having the most wonderful time. It is a happiness that history is about to catastrophically curtail — but for a decade, they are simply content. [1] — Anita Anand "Through the 1920s, Catherine and Lena lived out their days in Kassel during the Weimar Republic's wild years — describing themselves as 'ha…" 26:49
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William Dalrymple catalogues the escalating nightmare of Nazi Germany: Hitler chancellor in 1933, Führer in 1934, Nuremberg Laws in 1935, brownshirt violence in the streets. Yet Kassel remains, for a while, relatively insulated — 'half-timbered cottages and cuckoo clock houses' in a provincial Prussian town. By 1938 everything is changing. The Anschluss happens in March, the Sudetenland crisis unfolds through summer, and Europe reaches Munich by September. Catherine is 66. Lena is in her 70s. Lena is Catherine's shield — an Aryan German, beloved of the local community, whose presence makes the extraordinary spectacle of an Indian princess living in Prussia comprehensible to the authorities. [1] — William Dalrymple "When Hitler became chancellor in 1933 and the Nuremberg Laws stripped Jews of citizenship in 1935, Catherine — a brown-skinned Indian woman…" 27:39
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After the dramatic setup of Catherine in Nazi Germany, the episode pauses for a mid-episode break. Michael and Hannah from The Rest Is Science introduce a Cancer Research UK segment explaining CAR-T cell therapy — the process of extracting and reprogramming a patient's T-cells to recognise and destroy cancer cells, with particular promise against blood cancers and now being extended to solid tumours. Cancer Research UK claims its 50 years of work have helped double cancer survival in the UK. A further medical advertisement addresses Peyronie's disease, and the show then returns to Catherine's story.
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Anita Anand reveals the new research dimension that makes this episode remarkable: Sophia's goddaughter remembered 'dirty people' arriving at Hampton Court — people smuggled in on coal barges, cleaned, fed, and sent on their way — who she now believes were Jewish refugees helped out of Germany by Catherine. Historian Peter Bunz has been tracking what he calls the 'Indian Schindler,' and the context he provides is essential: Britain in the 1930s required a named, credible British citizen to personally guarantee every refugee would not become a burden on the state. Without that signature, the visa was refused. Catherine, with her British passport and her title, signed for at least six families — and bought a manor house in Buckinghamshire, remotely and sight unseen, to house them. It is, Anand argues, an act of pure humanity: saving lives across every barrier of colour, religion, and ethnicity. [1] — Anita Anand "British refugee policy in the 1930s required a named British citizen of standing to personally guarantee every Jewish refugee seeking entry…" 32:10 [2] — Anita Anand "Saving one life or saving 10 lives is still saving. You're saving someone's life. Somebody who's not your colour, not your religion, not yo…" 34:25
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The story of the Hornstein family is the episode's most human and specific moment. Ilse Hornstein is sitting in a doctor's waiting room in Kassel in 1938; her husband Wilhelm, a Jewish lawyer and decorated WWI veteran, has just been arrested by the Gestapo and sent to Sachsenhausen. Their two young children, Klaus-George and Ursula, are with her. She has no idea if Wilhelm is alive. And then she finds herself sitting next to an Indian princess. According to the family's own account, Catherine immediately offered to be their British guarantor — a complete stranger, known for ten minutes. Wilhelm was eventually released from Sachsenhausen (the camp was overcrowded and releasing prisoners on condition of immediate departure) and the entire family was sponsored to Britain, sheltered initially at Faraday House. In 2002, a descendant of another rescued family walked into Peter Bunz's office to confirm: 'If it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be alive today.' [1] — Anita Anand "In 1938, Catherine sat next to Ilse Hornstein in a Kassel doctor's waiting room. Ilse's Jewish lawyer husband had just been taken to the SS…" 36:10
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Lena's death in August 1938 is the turning point that forces Catherine's flight. At 67, she is alone for the first time in half a century. Her neighbours, alarmed by her vulnerability — brown-skinned, known to be helping Jewish families, now without Lena's protective Aryan status — urge her repeatedly to leave. Her neighbour Dr Fritz Rathig begs her. She does not want to go: Lena is buried in Kassel. But good sense eventually prevails, and this foreign-born woman in an unconventional relationship, whose activities would have been a red flag to the Nazi authorities, gets out. She reaches England via Switzerland in November 1938 — just after Kristallnacht — and goes, reluctantly, to the place she hates most: Faraday House in Hampton Court, Sophia's home, with all its dogs and cigarettes.
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Catherine's final years in England are a study in tenacious advocacy. At Cole Hatch House — the Buckinghamshire manor she'd never seen before arriving — she recreates something of her Kassel life: ornamental garden, orchard, European furnishings. She writes constantly to MPs, arranges passage for more refugees, and campaigns for Germans interned in Britain who have been lumped indiscriminately with Nazi sympathisers — including anti-Nazi Jews who had only recently escaped Hitler. Even during the Blitz, she persuades the reluctant, furiously chain-smoking Sophia to leave London for a cottage across the road. Then, on 8 November 1942, Sophia finds her lying dead on the floor. Her death is immediate — 'clot on the heart,' the doctor says, quite painless. Sophia is stupefied. Catherine's final wish is to go back to Lena: her will requests that a quarter of her ashes be buried as near as possible to Lena Schäfer's coffin in Kassel. Bamba, the fierce custodian, makes it happen. William Dalrymple reads out the words of the will: 'I desire that a quarter of my ashes be buried as near as possible to the coffin of my friend, Fraulein Lena Schäfer.' It is the end of a fifty-year love story — and the hosts promise that next time, they will meet the most difficult sister of all: Princess Bamba. [1] — Anita Anand "Even after reaching England, Catherine never stopped — writing to MPs, arranging passage for more refugees, fighting to free Germans intern…" 41:20 [2] — Anita Anand "All she wanted was to go back to Lena. Just take my remains back to Lena." 43:00
- Indian Schindler
- A nickname coined by historian Peter Bunz for Princess Catherine Duleep Singh, drawing a parallel to Oskar Schindler who saved 1,200 Jews; used to describe Catherine's role in guaranteeing British visas for Jewish families escaping Nazi Germany.
- Grace-and-favour apartments
- Residences in British royal palaces granted free of charge by the Crown as a reward or recognition to individuals; the Duleep Singh sisters lived in Faraday House at Hampton Court under such an arrangement.
- Guarantor (refugee policy)
- In 1930s Britain, a named British citizen who signed a legal undertaking that a refugee would not become a financial burden on the state; without such a signature, Jewish refugees from Germany were refused entry visas.
- Sachsenhausen
- An SS concentration camp north of Berlin, opened in 1936, where political prisoners and Jewish men were held in brutal conditions; Wilhelm Hornstein was imprisoned there before Catherine sponsored his family's escape.
- Nuremberg Laws
- Antisemitic racial laws enacted in Nazi Germany in 1935 that stripped Jewish people of their citizenship and prohibited marriage or sexual relations between Jews and non-Jews.
- Anschluss
- The annexation of Austria by Nazi Germany in March 1938, a key escalation of Nazi expansionism that brought the Third Reich to new borders and intensified pressure across Europe.
- Turnip Winter (Steckrübenwinter)
- The severe food shortage endured by German civilians during WWI's British naval blockade of 1916–17, when turnips became the primary food source and hundreds of thousands died of malnutrition.
- Somerville College
- One of Oxford University's earliest women's colleges, founded in 1879; women could study and sit exams there but were not formally awarded Oxford degrees until 1920.
- Grand Tour
- A traditional extended journey across Europe undertaken by wealthy or aristocratic young people — especially common in the 18th and 19th centuries — intended as a cultural education and rite of passage.
- Suborning treason
- The act of inducing or encouraging another person to commit treason; used here to describe Catherine's letter urging her brother Victor not to fight against Germany in WWI.
- Underground railroad
- A historical term originally describing the US network that helped enslaved people escape to freedom; used metaphorically here to describe the Duleep Singh sisters' informal network for helping Jewish families flee Nazi Germany.
- Kristallnacht
- The 'Night of Broken Glass' (9–10 November 1938), a pogrom across Nazi Germany and Austria in which Jewish businesses, synagogues, and homes were destroyed and approximately 30,000 Jewish men arrested.
- Weimar Republic
- The democratic government of Germany from 1919 to 1933, known for cultural liberalism and relative political freedom — including unusual public visibility of LGBTQ+ life — before it collapsed under Nazi pressure.
- Ephemera
- Minor, short-lived items of everyday life such as letters, tickets, and notes; used here to describe the personal correspondence between Catherine and Lena that was likely lost during WWII.
- Limpet
- A type of shellfish that clings tightly to rock; used figuratively by Anita Anand to describe the intense, inseparable attachment young Catherine formed to her governess Lena Schäfer.
- CAR-T cell therapy
- An immunotherapy treatment where a patient's own T-cells are extracted, genetically reprogrammed to recognise cancer cells, and reinfused; mentioned in a Cancer Research UK sponsor segment as showing promise against blood cancers.
- Sudetenland
- Areas of Czechoslovakia with large ethnic German populations, annexed by Nazi Germany in 1938 following the Munich Agreement; cited as a key moment of Nazi expansionism before WWII.
- Stipendiary
- Receiving a stipend or fixed payment; not directly used in episode but the concept of guardians like Lord Heneker receiving sanctioned authority over the Duleep Singh children is adjacent. [Excluded — not used]
- Fraulein
- A German honorific equivalent to 'Miss,' used for an unmarried woman; appears in Catherine's will referring to 'Fraulein Lena Schäfer,' her lifelong companion.
- Deportment
- The manner of carrying oneself; posture and bearing as a social accomplishment. A drill sergeant was employed to teach the Duleep Singh children deportment, suggesting the colonial-era effort to present them as proper British ladies.
Chapter 1 · 00:00
Sponsor Reads: LRB, BetterHelp & Attio
The episode opens with back-to-back sponsor reads. William Dalrymple champions the London Review of Books as 'the most wonderful journal in the country,' inviting listeners to try three months free at lrb.me/trial. A pre-recorded segment follows for BetterHelp, citing the platform's own 2026 State of Stigma report finding that 74% of Americans feel society discourages asking for help. Medical advertisements for Tremfya follow. Finally, Attio — billed as an AI CRM — is presented with an Empire-themed pitch about managing information across growing organisations, with a free trial available at attio.com/empire.
Claims made here
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 74% of Americans believe society still discourages people from asking for help, used in the sponsor read.
Chapter 2 · 04:11
Introduction: The Extraordinary Story of Catherine Duleep Singh
William Dalrymple opens the substantive episode by situating it as the second in a series that Anita Anand pioneered with her book on Sophia Duleep Singh, noting the accompanying London exhibition and growing public awareness of the family's extraordinary story. Where Episode 1 covered Sophia's suffragette activism, Episode 2 turns to Catherine — a woman who chose a radically different path, one that took her to a German town called Kassel in Prussia with her intimate companion, who happened to be her childhood governess. Dalrymple frames the central paradox immediately: a brown-skinned Indian princess, the sister of a British army officer, cohabiting with another woman, living in Nazi Germany. It is a premise that sounds impossible — and yet it happened.
Claims made here
Anita Anand's book on Sophia Duleep Singh was published a decade before this episode, which aired in 2026.
Catherine Duleep Singh was older than her famous sister Sophia, born in 1871, educated at Somerville College Oxford, and fluent in German and French. While Sophia fought the British establishment from inside it, Catherine simply left — choosing Germany, choosing Lena, choosing a life entirely on her own terms.
Chapter 3 · 06:30
The Duleep Singh Sisters: Family Background and Childhood
Anita Anand paints a vivid portrait of the three Duleep Singh sisters as they were presented as debutantes before Queen Victoria: eldest Bamba fierce and unsmiling, youngest Sophia pliable and anglicised, and Catherine in the middle — the most beautiful, with an enigmatic stillness. Their guardian Lord Heneker dispatched regular reports on the girls, congratulating himself on improving these 'poor neglected children' once removed from their 'malign family's influence.' Skin tone shaped perception even within the family: Catherine and Sophia, lighter-skinned, were considered prettier. Anand notes the tragic backstory: their mother died in 1887 and their father effectively abandoned them to a dissolute end in a Paris hotel, leaving the sisters in the care of guardians and tutors — including a drill sergeant, a deportment teacher, and finally a German governess.
Claims made here
Catherine Duleep Singh was born in 1871 in Belgravia and was the oldest of the three Duleep Singh sisters.
Princess Catherine Duleep Singh was born in 1871 in Belgravia, the eldest of the three Duleep Singh sisters presented as debutantes before Queen Victoria.
Chapter 4 · 10:25
Lena Schäfer Arrives: The Beginning of a Fifty-Year Love Story
Queen Victoria, who trusted German governesses above all others for their discipline, brought Lena Schäfer into the Duleep Singh household. Lena is described as kind and gentle — exactly the stable maternal presence that the traumatised, orphaned Catherine craved at sixteen. What begins as dependence transforms into something more durable: when Catherine goes up to Somerville College Oxford, Lena comes too, despite there being younger siblings at home who arguably needed a governess more. Anita Anand reads the relationship carefully — she spent over a decade with these women's archives — and concludes that what kindles at Somerville and continues for forty years is 'a loving relationship.' Whether sexual or not, it is acknowledged by Sophia, a notorious prude, who uses the word 'intimate' and never once questions the fact that Catherine and Lena are a package deal.
Claims made here
Indira Gandhi later attended Somerville College Oxford.
Somerville College Oxford was founded in 1879 and women were not formally awarded Oxford degrees until 1920.
Lena Schäfer arrived as a governess when Catherine was around 16. Within years she was following her to Oxford, across Europe, and finally to Germany — and the two were never separated again for five decades. Whether sexual or not, their relationship was a love story acknowledged even by Sophia, a notorious prude.
Lena Schäfer, the German governess who became Catherine's lifelong companion, was 12 years her senior and arrived when Catherine was around 16.
Somerville College Oxford, where Catherine and Bamba studied, was founded in 1879; women could sit exams but were not formally awarded degrees until 1920.
Chapter 5 · 14:00
Somerville College Oxford and the Question of Same-Sex Relationships
The conversation turns to what kind of relationship Catherine and Lena actually had, and what the consequences might have been. Dalrymple notes that male homosexuality faced brutal criminalisation — Oscar Wilde received two years hard labour in 1895 — and asks whether women faced similar risks. Anand's answer is striking: no equivalent law existed for women, because the Victorian legal mind simply could not conceive that women would 'do such a thing.' This invisibility cut both ways: it protected Catherine and Lena from prosecution, but it also meant their relationship would be invisible to history. Anand is careful to avoid imposing modern categories, while being clear that the evidence — inseparability, financial interdependence, Sophia's own word 'intimate' — points overwhelmingly to a loving bond.
Claims made here
Lesbian relationships were not criminalised in England at the time Oscar Wilde was prosecuted, because the Victorian legal mind could not conceive that women would engage in such relationships.
Oscar Wilde received a sentence of two years hard labor in 1895 for male homosexuality.
While Oscar Wilde got two years hard labor in 1895, lesbian relationships faced zero legal penalty in England — not because of tolerance, but because the Victorian legal mind literally could not conceive that women would do such a thing. This invisibility both protected and erased women like Catherine.
Oscar Wilde received a sentence of two years hard labor in 1895 for male homosexuality, illustrating the extreme legal danger for men compared to the legal invisibility of lesbian relationships.
Oxford University did not formally award degrees to women until 1920, meaning Catherine and Bamba left with education but no official qualification.
Chapter 7 · 19:55
Life in Kassel: A Chocolate Box Existence and Suffragette Solidarity
Kassel is described as a prosperous, slightly sleepy German university town set in a valley surrounded by beech forests — the town where the Brothers Grimm collected many of their fairy tales. For Catherine and Lena it is domestic bliss: Lena cooks restorative German food, the air is delightful, and Catherine writes to Sophia tempting her to visit and recover from what sounds like an eating disorder. From this happy distance, Catherine watches Sophia's suffragette campaigns with bemused but real support, sending money to Millicent Fawcett's non-militant wing. Anand suggests Catherine's support for women's rights was perhaps sharpened by her own unconventional situation — a relationship that could, at some point, have been criminalised. Meanwhile, Sophia and Bamba seethe in Hampton Court's grace-and-favour apartments, surrounded by what they consider the architects of colonial violence against their family.
Chapter 8 · 21:55
WWI: The Intercepted Letter and Charges of Pro-German Sentiment
The First World War catches Catherine on the wrong side of the border. As a British citizen, she has every right to return home; she refuses, because Lena — a German — cannot leave. Sophia bombards the India Office with requests to extract her, and the authorities monitor the situation. Then Catherine's secret letter to Sophia is intercepted: it describes Germany as orderly and peaceful, calls the war unjust, and — using a coded star symbol — begs her brother Victor not to fight. Anand reads it aloud: it amounts to suborning treason. William Dalrymple notes this is a period of total censorship, and the letter goes into a file alongside an assessment that Catherine is 'decidedly pro-German' but 'not a serious threat.' She is left to remain in Germany. Only in 1918, starving and with Lena seriously ill, does Sophia succeed in extracting her via the Dutch embassy in Berlin — on Armistice Day itself. [1] — Anita Anand "Catherine wrote a secret letter to her sister Sophia during WWI urging their brother Victor not to fight against Germany, calling the war '…" 22:00
Catherine wrote a secret letter to her sister Sophia during WWI urging their brother Victor not to fight against Germany, calling the war 'unjust.' British censors intercepted it, deemed her 'decidedly pro-German,' and filed it away — a decision that would haunt her for decades.
Catherine Duleep Singh's letter urging Victor not to fight against Germany was intercepted by British censors during WWI and filed as evidence that she was 'decidedly pro-German' but not a serious threat.
During the WWI naval blockade, German civilians starved through what became known as 'the Turnip Winter.' Catherine remained in Kassel even as hundreds of thousands died of malnutrition and disease — refusing to leave Lena behind. Only when she herself was starving did Sophia finally manage to extract her.
Chapter 9 · 24:58
The Weimar Years: Happiness Before the Storm
The moment Catherine is strong enough after WWI, and the moment borders allow, she returns to Lena in Kassel. Through the 1920s — the era of Weimar Germany, of Babylon Berlin, of unprecedented same-sex visibility and cultural experimentation — Catherine and Lena live in what the former calls 'domestic bliss.' Dalrymple evokes the world of Cabaret and Babylon Berlin, noting how little this era of German openness is remembered now. Catherine describes them as 'happy little church mice,' wandering around and having the most wonderful time. It is a happiness that history is about to catastrophically curtail — but for a decade, they are simply content. [1] — Anita Anand "Through the 1920s, Catherine and Lena lived out their days in Kassel during the Weimar Republic's wild years — describing themselves as 'ha…" 26:49
Claims made here
Hitler became chancellor in 1933, took the title Führer in 1934, and the Nuremberg Laws stripped German Jews of citizenship in 1935.
Through the 1920s, Catherine and Lena lived out their days in Kassel during the Weimar Republic's wild years — describing themselves as 'happy little church mice.' It was the world of Cabaret, of same-sex visibility, of an unlikely freedom that was about to be catastrophically reversed.
When Hitler became chancellor in 1933 and the Nuremberg Laws stripped Jews of citizenship in 1935, Catherine — a brown-skinned Indian woman in a same-sex partnership in Prussia — simply stayed. She was invisible enough to survive and well-connected enough, through Lena, to be protected — for now.
Chapter 11 · 29:40
Mid-Episode Break and Sponsor Reads
After the dramatic setup of Catherine in Nazi Germany, the episode pauses for a mid-episode break. Michael and Hannah from The Rest Is Science introduce a Cancer Research UK segment explaining CAR-T cell therapy — the process of extracting and reprogramming a patient's T-cells to recognise and destroy cancer cells, with particular promise against blood cancers and now being extended to solid tumours. Cancer Research UK claims its 50 years of work have helped double cancer survival in the UK. A further medical advertisement addresses Peyronie's disease, and the show then returns to Catherine's story.
Claims made here
Cancer Research UK's work over the past 50 years has helped to double cancer survival rates in the United Kingdom.
Over the past 50 years, Cancer Research UK's work has helped to double cancer survival rates in the UK, according to the charity's own figures cited in the episode's sponsor read.
British refugee policy in the 1930s required a named British citizen of standing to personally guarantee every Jewish refugee seeking entry. Catherine Duleep Singh used her royal title and British passport to sponsor at least six families — buying a Buckinghamshire manor house, sight unseen, to house them. Historian Peter Bunz estimates the real number is much higher.
Chapter 12 · 32:24
The Indian Schindler: Rescuing Jewish Families from the Gestapo
Anita Anand reveals the new research dimension that makes this episode remarkable: Sophia's goddaughter remembered 'dirty people' arriving at Hampton Court — people smuggled in on coal barges, cleaned, fed, and sent on their way — who she now believes were Jewish refugees helped out of Germany by Catherine. Historian Peter Bunz has been tracking what he calls the 'Indian Schindler,' and the context he provides is essential: Britain in the 1930s required a named, credible British citizen to personally guarantee every refugee would not become a burden on the state. Without that signature, the visa was refused. Catherine, with her British passport and her title, signed for at least six families — and bought a manor house in Buckinghamshire, remotely and sight unseen, to house them. It is, Anand argues, an act of pure humanity: saving lives across every barrier of colour, religion, and ethnicity. [1] — Anita Anand "British refugee policy in the 1930s required a named British citizen of standing to personally guarantee every Jewish refugee seeking entry…" 32:10 [2] — Anita Anand "Saving one life or saving 10 lives is still saving. You're saving someone's life. Somebody who's not your colour, not your religion, not yo…" 34:25
Claims made here
Oskar Schindler saved 1,200 lives during the Holocaust.
British refugee policy in the 1930s required a British citizen of note to sign a guarantee that a Jewish refugee would not become a financial burden on the state before a visa would be granted.
Historian Peter Bunz, who coined the term 'Indian Schindler' for Catherine, noted that Oskar Schindler saved 1,200 lives, but argued that saving even one life still counts as saving a life.
Catherine Duleep Singh purchased a manor house in Buckinghamshire — sight unseen — to serve as a refuge for the Jewish families she was sponsoring out of Nazi Germany.
Chapter 13 · 36:10
The Hornstein Family: Catherine's First Documented Rescue
The story of the Hornstein family is the episode's most human and specific moment. Ilse Hornstein is sitting in a doctor's waiting room in Kassel in 1938; her husband Wilhelm, a Jewish lawyer and decorated WWI veteran, has just been arrested by the Gestapo and sent to Sachsenhausen. Their two young children, Klaus-George and Ursula, are with her. She has no idea if Wilhelm is alive. And then she finds herself sitting next to an Indian princess. According to the family's own account, Catherine immediately offered to be their British guarantor — a complete stranger, known for ten minutes. Wilhelm was eventually released from Sachsenhausen (the camp was overcrowded and releasing prisoners on condition of immediate departure) and the entire family was sponsored to Britain, sheltered initially at Faraday House. In 2002, a descendant of another rescued family walked into Peter Bunz's office to confirm: 'If it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be alive today.' [1] — Anita Anand "In 1938, Catherine sat next to Ilse Hornstein in a Kassel doctor's waiting room. Ilse's Jewish lawyer husband had just been taken to the SS…" 36:10
Claims made here
Catherine Duleep Singh acted as a British guarantor for at least six Jewish individuals or families to escape Nazi Germany, in addition to the Hornstein family.
In 2002, a survivor appeared at historian Peter Bunz's office confirming that Princess Catherine had saved his mother, uncles, and grandparents.
In 1938, Catherine sat next to Ilse Hornstein in a Kassel doctor's waiting room. Ilse's Jewish lawyer husband had just been taken to the SS camp Sachsenhausen. Within minutes, Catherine — a perfect stranger — offered to sponsor the entire family's British visas. Wilhelm got out, the family escaped, and Sophia sheltered them at Hampton Court.
Princess Catherine Duleep Singh used her British passport and royal title to act as legal guarantor for at least six Jewish families, enabling them to obtain British visas and escape Nazi Germany.
Wilhelm Hornstein, a Jewish lawyer imprisoned in the SS camp Sachsenhausen, was released partly because the camp was overcrowded, on condition he immediately leave Germany.
In 2002, a stranger walked into historian Peter Bunz's office and said: 'My mother and my uncles and my grandparents were saved by Princess Catherine. If it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be alive today.' That spine-tingling moment confirmed the scale of what Catherine had done — and how thoroughly history had buried her.
Lena Schäfer died in August 1938, just weeks before Kristallnacht. Catherine, 67, was alone in Kassel for the first time in half a century. Neighbours begged her to flee — she was brown, she had been helping Jewish families, and without Lena's Aryan status as protection, she was dangerously exposed. She didn't want to leave. Lena was buried there.
Catherine Duleep Singh finally fled Germany after Lena Schäfer's death, arriving in England via Switzerland in November 1938, weeks after Kristallnacht.
Chapter 15 · 41:00
Cole Hatch House: A Final Chapter of Advocacy and Loss
Catherine's final years in England are a study in tenacious advocacy. At Cole Hatch House — the Buckinghamshire manor she'd never seen before arriving — she recreates something of her Kassel life: ornamental garden, orchard, European furnishings. She writes constantly to MPs, arranges passage for more refugees, and campaigns for Germans interned in Britain who have been lumped indiscriminately with Nazi sympathisers — including anti-Nazi Jews who had only recently escaped Hitler. Even during the Blitz, she persuades the reluctant, furiously chain-smoking Sophia to leave London for a cottage across the road. Then, on 8 November 1942, Sophia finds her lying dead on the floor. Her death is immediate — 'clot on the heart,' the doctor says, quite painless. Sophia is stupefied. Catherine's final wish is to go back to Lena: her will requests that a quarter of her ashes be buried as near as possible to Lena Schäfer's coffin in Kassel. Bamba, the fierce custodian, makes it happen. William Dalrymple reads out the words of the will: 'I desire that a quarter of my ashes be buried as near as possible to the coffin of my friend, Fraulein Lena Schäfer.' It is the end of a fifty-year love story — and the hosts promise that next time, they will meet the most difficult sister of all: Princess Bamba. [1] — Anita Anand "Even after reaching England, Catherine never stopped — writing to MPs, arranging passage for more refugees, fighting to free Germans intern…" 41:20 [2] — Anita Anand "All she wanted was to go back to Lena. Just take my remains back to Lena." 43:00
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Catherine Duleep Singh died on 8 November 1942 in Buckinghamshire, having been found by her sister Sophia.
Even after reaching England, Catherine never stopped — writing to MPs, arranging passage for more refugees, fighting to free Germans interned alongside Nazis in British camps. She died on 8 November 1942, found by Sophia on the floor of Cole Hatch House. Her last wish: return her ashes to Lena in Kassel.
Princess Catherine Duleep Singh died on 8 November 1942 in Buckinghamshire, found by her sister Sophia, having never recovered from the loss of Lena Schäfer.
Catherine's final wish was for a quarter of her ashes to be buried as near as possible to Lena Schäfer's coffin in Kassel, eventually fulfilled by her sister Bamba.
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Central figure of the episode — Indian princess, daughter of the last Maharaja of the Punjab, who lived in Nazi Germany and rescued Jewish families, earning the title 'Indian Schindler'.
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German governess who became Princess Catherine Duleep Singh's lifelong companion, living with her in Kassel for 50 years until her death in August 1938.
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Princess Catherine's younger sister, a famous suffragette and the subject of Anita Anand's book; she sheltered Jewish refugees at Faraday House, Hampton Court.
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The eldest Duleep Singh sister, who also studied at Somerville College Oxford and is the subject of the next episode; she arranged Catherine's cremation and return of ashes to Kassel.
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Historian and Duleep Singh archivist who coined the term 'Indian Schindler' and identified the Jewish families Catherine rescued, including giving an interview to Deutsche Welle.
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The British monarch before whom the Duleep Singh sisters were presented as debutantes; she approved of German governesses and signed off on sending Catherine and Bamba to Somerville.
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His rise to power in 1933 and subsequent Nazi policies form the backdrop against which Catherine Duleep Singh's rescue of Jewish families took place.
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The first Jewish family Catherine Duleep Singh is documented to have rescued; Ilse's husband Wilhelm was a Jewish lawyer imprisoned in Sachsenhausen whose family was sponsored to safety in Britain.
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Secretary of State for India during WWI who authorised Catherine Duleep Singh's return to England, described as one of the more liberal members of a cabinet with poor racial views.
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Used as the benchmark example of male homosexuality's brutal legal criminalisation in Victorian England, contrasted with the legal invisibility of lesbian relationships.
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Leader of the non-militant suffragette movement, to whom Catherine Duleep Singh sent financial donations from Germany, indicating her support for women's rights.
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Oxford University's women's college (founded 1879) where Catherine and Bamba Duleep Singh studied; Catherine achieved third-class honours in French and German.
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A Prussian university town where Catherine Duleep Singh and Lena Schäfer made their home for decades; also the location where Catherine first met the Hornstein family.
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Location of Faraday House, the grace-and-favour apartment where Sophia Duleep Singh lived and where Jewish families rescued by Catherine were initially sheltered.
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SS concentration camp north of Berlin where Wilhelm Hornstein was imprisoned; one of the camps Catherine's rescue work helped families escape from.
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BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 74% of Americans believe society still discourages asking for help.
Somerville College Oxford was founded in 1879 and women were not formally awarded Oxford degrees until 1920.
Oscar Wilde received a sentence of two years hard labor in 1895 for male homosexuality.
Lesbian relationships were not criminalised in England at the time Oscar Wilde was prosecuted, because the Victorian legal mind could not conceive that women would engage in such relationships.
Hitler became chancellor in 1933, took the title Führer in 1934, and the Nuremberg Laws stripped German Jews of citizenship in 1935.
British refugee policy in the 1930s required a British citizen of note to sign a guarantee that a Jewish refugee would not become a financial burden on the state before a visa would be granted.
Oskar Schindler saved 1,200 lives during the Holocaust.
Catherine Duleep Singh acted as a British guarantor for at least six Jewish individuals or families to escape Nazi Germany, in addition to the Hornstein family.
Anita Anand's book on Sophia Duleep Singh was published a decade before this episode, which aired in 2026.
Cancer Research UK's work over the past 50 years has helped to double cancer survival rates in the United Kingdom.
Catherine Duleep Singh was born in 1871 in Belgravia and was the oldest of the three Duleep Singh sisters.
Catherine Duleep Singh died on 8 November 1942 in Buckinghamshire, having been found by her sister Sophia.
In 2002, a survivor appeared at historian Peter Bunz's office confirming that Princess Catherine had saved his mother, uncles, and grandparents.
The Anschluss — the German annexation of Austria — took place in March 1938.
Indira Gandhi later attended Somerville College Oxford.