Prince William on England's World Cup, Travis at Wembley, NFL in the UK & America's 250th | Bonus EP

Prince William on England's World Cup, Travis at Wembley, NFL in the UK & America's 250th | Bonus EP

Prince William's dad hates football — he became an Aston Villa fanatic through school friends, and relegation only made him love the club more.

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TL;DR

Prince William joins Jason and Travis Kelce on New Heights for a wide-ranging conversation about football fandom, the 2026 FIFA World Cup, and the NFL's growing popularity in the UK. William reveals his father hates football, that he became an Aston Villa fan through school friends, and that relegation actually deepened his love for the club. He shares his Mount Rushmore of English footballers, debates VAR and diving with the Kelces, and admits he'd fly to the final if England makes it. The key takeaway: sport's power to unite communities transcends borders — and burnt ends could unite nations too.

#FIFA World Cup 2026 #Aston Villa #NFL in the UK #Premier League relegation #VAR controversy #English footballer Mount Rushmore #soccer tribalism in America #royal family sports #Thomas Tuchel England #Travis Kelce Wembley #Taylor Swift Wembley #football vs soccer #Kansas City soccer culture #sport and mental health #America 250th anniversary #Prince William #NFL London #Wembley Stadium #Thomas Tuchel #relegation #VAR #English football #Taylor Swift #Travis Kelce #Jason Kelce #FA patron #David Beckham #Wayne Rooney #Premier League #soccer culture #mental health sport

Prince William joins Jason and Travis Kelce on New Heights to talk Aston Villa, England's World Cup confidence, and the NFL's growing UK presence. Sponsored by Xfinity.

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  • Before a single word of content is heard, New Heights runs three distinct sponsor segments back-to-back. The Home Depot, as an official FIFA World Cup 2026 supporter, pitches backyard viewing setups with fast free delivery on over two million items. Mobil Supreme Plus Premium follows with a colourful ad starring motorsport legend Shirley 'Cha-Cha' Muldowney, claiming its fuel keeps engines three times cleaner than regular Mobil gas. Reese's closes the block with a brief, playful spot. The sequence sets the commercial tone of the episode before the hosts take over.

  • Travis and Jason set the scene for what they describe as a conversation that 'came out of nowhere.' Jason admits he still doesn't fully understand how they landed this guest, then leans into the occasion — reading Prince William's complete list of titles at full speed: President of the FA, Duke of Cambridge, Duke of Cornwall, Lord of the Isles, Prince of Wales, and more. William's reaction — 'That is quite, quite an intro, guys. Amazing.' — immediately establishes the warm, good-humoured dynamic that carries the entire episode. Travis credits a recent in-person meeting and their shared Aston Villa conversation for planting the seed of the invitation.

  • Opening the substantive conversation, Travis references England's win over Croatia and asks William how he's feeling about the tournament. William reveals a mix of accumulated hope and cautious optimism — each failed World Cup having 'chipped away a little bit' of his confidence over the years. The real insight comes when he contrasts the departing Gareth Southgate's defensive philosophy with Thomas Tuchel's refreshingly attacking mindset: 'If you're going to score four, we'll score five.' It's a philosophy William clearly loves, likening it to the Kansas City Chiefs under Patrick Mahomes. But first — an immediate, cheerful correction for Jason, who calls it 'soccer': 'First of all, Jason, I have to correct you. It's football.'

  • With the Eagles set to play at the new Tottenham Stadium and the Kelces having experienced Wembley firsthand, the conversation turns to American football's growing presence in the UK. William is enthusiastic but measured: the sport is gaining traction, but the tactical complexity and frequent stoppages remain a barrier for fans used to 90 uninterrupted minutes of play. Travis's Wembley memory is vivid — he scored a touchdown and immediately wanted the ball preserved in a glass case, struck by how the London crowd brought the same energy to every single play that American crowds reserve for only the biggest moments. William confirms the passion is real and the appetite is growing.

  • Jason reflects on attending the 2014 World Cup in Brazil and the unique sense of global community it created, before the conversation turns to the 2026 tournament as a US host. William says the scale of American stadiums will be the biggest surprise for English visitors — a genuine culture shock. Jason then raises the thornier question of why the US lacks the visceral chant culture that defines English football in pubs and stadiums. William's answer is incisive: Americans are already tribal — they just point that energy at the NFL, NBA, and MLB. Attach the same DNA to football, he argues, and the culture will follow. The pub's role as a communal gathering space for wins and losses is also discussed, with William hinting that some English football chants are too rude to broadcast.

  • Jason asks about football's broader role in society, and William gives an unexpectedly personal answer. Sport is good for health — particularly mental health — and provides a release that he argues is irreplaceable. He turns to Travis directly and notes that Travis is still playing, so he doesn't fully understand yet; but when it ends, you 'really pine for it.' The camaraderie of teammates, the competitive spirit, the physical outlet — William says these things have genuinely filled a hole in his life that nothing else has replaced since he stopped playing sport himself. It's one of the most candid moments in the episode, cutting through the royal formality to reveal a relatable human truth.

  • Mirroring the story of how Ed Kelce integrated his sons into Cleveland Browns fandom, Travis asks whether King Charles got William into Aston Villa. The answer is blunt and immediately quotable: 'Absolutely not. My father hates football.' William explains that his family has no particular tradition of football support — his love of the game came entirely from school friends who took him to his first match. What makes the story richer is the detail he adds: he ran into Gareth Southgate just that week, and Southgate reminded him that he had been playing as a defender for Aston Villa in the very game William watched — a Villa vs Bolton match in the year 2000. The future England manager and the future King of England, both present at the same ground, with neither knowing what lay ahead.

  • With the 2026 World Cup coinciding with America's 250th anniversary, Jason cannot resist asking William — with a grin — whether he's surprised the US survived. William is diplomatic: 'There were times, there were times.' The 'good brotherhood' between the UK and US, he insists, has held across all 250 years. Then comes the main event: Jason poses the Wembley question. Travis scored a touchdown there in 2015 against the Lions. He also danced on stage for Taylor Swift's Eras Tour. Prince William — without hesitation — picks the backup dancer moment and suggests Travis should do it again. Travis relives the memory of meeting William and the royal children backstage, noting that both Kelce brothers were so nervous about royal protocol that Jason didn't know what to do with his beer.

  • Jason introduces the Mount Rushmore concept — four presidents carved into a mountain, adapted here as the four greatest in a given field — and asks William to pick the all-time English footballers. William approaches it with evident pleasure and difficulty. David Beckham is first and firm: 'probably the best crosser of the ball I've ever seen and probably ever will see.' Gary Lineker and Harry Kane are almost interchangeable in his mind — Kane is on the verge of overtaking Lineker's goal record and could end up the greatest striker England has ever produced. Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard follow for midfield greatness, then Wayne Rooney for the generation William grew up watching most passionately, and finally Bobby Charlton to honour the historic greats. Jason asks if William just knighted everyone he named — to which William replies: 'I tried to, yeah.'

  • Jason sparks the most technically rich exchange of the episode by referencing the reversed yellow card in the USA vs Paraguay World Cup match, where VAR determined a player had dived. Prince William's response is carefully balanced: he agrees ironing out simulation is good, but warns that the technology creates its own problem — once you have VAR, you can't not use it, and the delays and stop-start rhythm risk destroying football's flow. He cites a clear example: blatant holding fouls in the penalty box during corners that VAR somehow never reviews. The Kelces flip the debate to the NFL, where Jason acknowledges that players do exaggerate contact — a receiver going down harder than necessary to draw pass interference — but notes that unsportsmanlike conduct is almost never called for it. William sums up the professional foul culture in football — deliberately fouling to stop a counter-attack — and Travis responds with his most quotable line of the episode: 'That's a cutthroat fucking mentality.'

  • Travis poses the episode's most revealing question: what was Prince William's 'welcome to football' moment — the realisation that he was committed for the long haul? Most people expect the answer to involve a trophy or a great match. Instead, William describes relegation. When Aston Villa dropped from the Premier League to the Championship, instead of feeling deflated, he found himself more invested than ever. The midweek games, the higher volume of matches — approximately 40 per Championship season — and the grinding nature of the battle to get back up all deepened his connection to the club. The Europa League win he eventually witnessed was the culmination of that emotional journey: his generation of Aston Villa fans had gone since 1982 without a European trophy. Travis's reaction captures the moment perfectly: 'Prince William — the guy you want in the foxhole. They get relegated, he gets more into it.'

  • Inspired by William's relegation story, Jason raises a pointed comparison to the NFL: American sports leagues have no relegation, which creates a perverse incentive for bad teams to lose intentionally in order to secure better draft picks. Relegation eliminates that — every game at every level has genuine stakes. William extends the argument: it's not just about punishing failure, it's about enabling dreams. The fact that any club in the English pyramid can theoretically reach the Premier League — given enough resources, luck, and talent — keeps the whole system alive with possibility. He cites Leicester City's improbable title win as the perfect illustration: a club most fans wrote off, celebrated by the entire nation when they won. 'There wasn't another football fan in the country that thought, good on Leicester, that was an amazing achievement,' William says.

  • As the interview approaches its close, Jason asks the inevitable question: what does success look like for England in 2026? Prince William does not bother with diplomatic hedging. 'I think winning it.' Full stop. Travis immediately asks whether William will make the trip across the pond if England makes the final — and the answer is an equally direct yes. The exchange ends on a perfect comedic note: William offers to personally write to Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid to get Travis excused from training camp for the occasion, with Travis playing along: 'Coach Reid — Prince William called. I'll be back tomorrow.'

  • Travis and Jason close out the Prince William conversation with genuine warmth — thanking him for his time and wishing both England and the royal family well. The Xfinity sponsor read follows, with the hosts riffing on World Cup watch parties, fiber-powered WiFi, and the challenge of hosting a crowd of people all streaming at once. It's a smooth transition from royal conversation to commercial reality, with both brothers clearly still processing what just happened on their podcast.

  • The formal episode is over, but the brothers keep talking — and what spills out is the most unguarded moment of the whole recording. Travis lists the week's events: dunking with Will Ferrell, blocking a penalty from a pregnant Alex Morgan, and ending on a conversation with Prince William. His reaction is two words: 'What the fuck?' Jason notes, laughing, that when they started New Heights they thought they'd be talking to 'fat offensive linemen, not kings, queens, princes of other nations.' Jason briefly tries to bring up the Hessians — the German mercenaries hired by England during the Revolutionary War — before a producer intercedes and they agree to cut it. The episode ends with Jason's four-word verdict on this improbable new career chapter: 'Podcasting is great.'

FA (Football Association)
The governing body of football in England, the oldest football association in the world, responsible for overseeing the national team, grassroots football, and the laws of the game in England.
VAR (Video Assistant Referee)
A video review system used in football where an off-field referee reviews footage to correct clear and obvious errors in key match decisions such as goals, penalties, red cards, and mistaken identity.
Relegation
The system in English football (and most European leagues) where the worst-performing teams in a division are moved down to a lower tier at the end of the season, replaced by promoted clubs from below.
Championship
The second tier of the English football league system, one division below the Premier League. Clubs relegated from the Premier League drop here, and the top clubs are promoted back up.
Premiership / Premier League
The top tier of English club football, comprising 20 clubs. Often called 'the Premiership' colloquially, though the official name is the Premier League.
Europa League
UEFA's second-tier European club competition, which Aston Villa won — a historic achievement Prince William described as the biggest moment of his time as a fan.
Professional foul
A deliberate tactical foul committed to stop an opponent who is in a good position to score, accepting the resulting yellow card as a worthwhile trade-off to prevent a goal.
Patron
An honorary role, often held by a member of royalty or a prominent figure, lending prestige and public support to an organisation without day-to-day governance responsibilities. Prince William is now Patron of the FA.
Dark horse
A competitor thought to have little chance of winning who unexpectedly performs well. Prince William used it to describe Leicester City before their shock Premier League title.
Tribalness / Tribality
The intense collective identity and loyalty fans feel toward a sports club, treating it as a core part of their personal and community identity. Prince William used it to describe English football fan culture.
Staccato
Characterised by abrupt, disconnected stops and starts. Prince William used it to warn that over-reliance on VAR could make football feel fragmented and lose its fluid rhythm.
Pine (verb)
To feel a deep, prolonged longing or yearning for something lost. Prince William used it to describe the emotional void athletes feel when they can no longer play competitive sport.
Pass interference
A penalty in American football called when a defensive player illegally prevents a receiver from catching a pass. The Kelces discussed whether video review should cover such judgment calls.
Burnt ends
A Kansas City barbecue specialty made from the fatty, caramelised tips of a brisket, considered a delicacy. Travis Kelce enthusiastically tried to introduce Prince William to them.
Foxhole (in a foxhole)
A military metaphor meaning a trusted ally you'd want beside you under extreme pressure. Travis used it to praise Prince William's loyalty after learning he became more devoted to Aston Villa after their relegation.

Chapter 2 · 02:08

Welcome & Intro: Prince William Joins New Heights

Travis and Jason set the scene for what they describe as a conversation that 'came out of nowhere.' Jason admits he still doesn't fully understand how they landed this guest, then leans into the occasion — reading Prince William's complete list of titles at full speed: President of the FA, Duke of Cambridge, Duke of Cornwall, Lord of the Isles, Prince of Wales, and more. William's reaction — 'That is quite, quite an intro, guys. Amazing.' — immediately establishes the warm, good-humoured dynamic that carries the entire episode. Travis credits a recent in-person meeting and their shared Aston Villa conversation for planting the seed of the invitation.

Chapter 3 · 04:20

England's World Cup Hopes and Tuchel's Attacking Philosophy

Opening the substantive conversation, Travis references England's win over Croatia and asks William how he's feeling about the tournament. William reveals a mix of accumulated hope and cautious optimism — each failed World Cup having 'chipped away a little bit' of his confidence over the years. The real insight comes when he contrasts the departing Gareth Southgate's defensive philosophy with Thomas Tuchel's refreshingly attacking mindset: 'If you're going to score four, we'll score five.' It's a philosophy William clearly loves, likening it to the Kansas City Chiefs under Patrick Mahomes. But first — an immediate, cheerful correction for Jason, who calls it 'soccer': 'First of all, Jason, I have to correct you. It's football.'

Claims made here

Prince William has been associated with the FA since around 2010, first as President and now as Patron.

Prince William no source cited

Chapter 4 · 06:55

NFL in the UK: Growing Fan Base and the Rules Barrier

With the Eagles set to play at the new Tottenham Stadium and the Kelces having experienced Wembley firsthand, the conversation turns to American football's growing presence in the UK. William is enthusiastic but measured: the sport is gaining traction, but the tactical complexity and frequent stoppages remain a barrier for fans used to 90 uninterrupted minutes of play. Travis's Wembley memory is vivid — he scored a touchdown and immediately wanted the ball preserved in a glass case, struck by how the London crowd brought the same energy to every single play that American crowds reserve for only the biggest moments. William confirms the passion is real and the appetite is growing.

Claims made here

The 2026 FIFA World Cup is being hosted across the US, Canada, and Mexico, making it the most geographically spread World Cup ever.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Jason Kelce attended the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Chapter 5 · 09:20

World Cup as the US Host: Culture, Scale & Soccer Chants

Jason reflects on attending the 2014 World Cup in Brazil and the unique sense of global community it created, before the conversation turns to the 2026 tournament as a US host. William says the scale of American stadiums will be the biggest surprise for English visitors — a genuine culture shock. Jason then raises the thornier question of why the US lacks the visceral chant culture that defines English football in pubs and stadiums. William's answer is incisive: Americans are already tribal — they just point that energy at the NFL, NBA, and MLB. Attach the same DNA to football, he argues, and the culture will follow. The pub's role as a communal gathering space for wins and losses is also discussed, with William hinting that some English football chants are too rude to broadcast.

Chapter 6 · 12:20

Sport, Mental Health, and What You Miss When You Stop Playing

Jason asks about football's broader role in society, and William gives an unexpectedly personal answer. Sport is good for health — particularly mental health — and provides a release that he argues is irreplaceable. He turns to Travis directly and notes that Travis is still playing, so he doesn't fully understand yet; but when it ends, you 'really pine for it.' The camaraderie of teammates, the competitive spirit, the physical outlet — William says these things have genuinely filled a hole in his life that nothing else has replaced since he stopped playing sport himself. It's one of the most candid moments in the episode, cutting through the royal formality to reveal a relatable human truth.

Claims made here

England's national team base camp for the 2026 FIFA World Cup is in Kansas City.

Travis Kelce no source cited

Chapter 7 · 14:30

Origin Story: How Prince William Became an Aston Villa Fan

Mirroring the story of how Ed Kelce integrated his sons into Cleveland Browns fandom, Travis asks whether King Charles got William into Aston Villa. The answer is blunt and immediately quotable: 'Absolutely not. My father hates football.' William explains that his family has no particular tradition of football support — his love of the game came entirely from school friends who took him to his first match. What makes the story richer is the detail he adds: he ran into Gareth Southgate just that week, and Southgate reminded him that he had been playing as a defender for Aston Villa in the very game William watched — a Villa vs Bolton match in the year 2000. The future England manager and the future King of England, both present at the same ground, with neither knowing what lay ahead.

Claims made here

Gareth Southgate played as a defender for Aston Villa in the year 2000 and featured in Prince William's first ever football match.

Prince William no source cited

Travis Kelce scored a touchdown at Wembley Stadium in 2015 in an NFL international game against the Detroit Lions.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Chapter 8 · 16:50

America Turns 250 & Travis's Wembley Legacy: TD vs Taylor Swift

With the 2026 World Cup coinciding with America's 250th anniversary, Jason cannot resist asking William — with a grin — whether he's surprised the US survived. William is diplomatic: 'There were times, there were times.' The 'good brotherhood' between the UK and US, he insists, has held across all 250 years. Then comes the main event: Jason poses the Wembley question. Travis scored a touchdown there in 2015 against the Lions. He also danced on stage for Taylor Swift's Eras Tour. Prince William — without hesitation — picks the backup dancer moment and suggests Travis should do it again. Travis relives the memory of meeting William and the royal children backstage, noting that both Kelce brothers were so nervous about royal protocol that Jason didn't know what to do with his beer.

Claims made here

Jason Kelce has four daughters.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Chapter 9 · 18:15

Mount Rushmore of English Footballers

Jason introduces the Mount Rushmore concept — four presidents carved into a mountain, adapted here as the four greatest in a given field — and asks William to pick the all-time English footballers. William approaches it with evident pleasure and difficulty. David Beckham is first and firm: 'probably the best crosser of the ball I've ever seen and probably ever will see.' Gary Lineker and Harry Kane are almost interchangeable in his mind — Kane is on the verge of overtaking Lineker's goal record and could end up the greatest striker England has ever produced. Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard follow for midfield greatness, then Wayne Rooney for the generation William grew up watching most passionately, and finally Bobby Charlton to honour the historic greats. Jason asks if William just knighted everyone he named — to which William replies: 'I tried to, yeah.'

Claims made here

Harry Kane is closing in on Gary Lineker's England goal-scoring record and could become the greatest English striker ever.

Prince William no source cited

In a USA World Cup match against Paraguay, a player was given a yellow card that was reversed after VAR showed the opposing player had dived.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Chapter 10 · 20:35

Diving, VAR, and Tactical Fouls: A Cross-Sport Debate

Jason sparks the most technically rich exchange of the episode by referencing the reversed yellow card in the USA vs Paraguay World Cup match, where VAR determined a player had dived. Prince William's response is carefully balanced: he agrees ironing out simulation is good, but warns that the technology creates its own problem — once you have VAR, you can't not use it, and the delays and stop-start rhythm risk destroying football's flow. He cites a clear example: blatant holding fouls in the penalty box during corners that VAR somehow never reviews. The Kelces flip the debate to the NFL, where Jason acknowledges that players do exaggerate contact — a receiver going down harder than necessary to draw pass interference — but notes that unsportsmanlike conduct is almost never called for it. William sums up the professional foul culture in football — deliberately fouling to stop a counter-attack — and Travis responds with his most quotable line of the episode: 'That's a cutthroat fucking mentality.'

Chapter 11 · 24:20

William's Welcome to Football Moment: Relegation Made Him a Bigger Fan

Travis poses the episode's most revealing question: what was Prince William's 'welcome to football' moment — the realisation that he was committed for the long haul? Most people expect the answer to involve a trophy or a great match. Instead, William describes relegation. When Aston Villa dropped from the Premier League to the Championship, instead of feeling deflated, he found himself more invested than ever. The midweek games, the higher volume of matches — approximately 40 per Championship season — and the grinding nature of the battle to get back up all deepened his connection to the club. The Europa League win he eventually witnessed was the culmination of that emotional journey: his generation of Aston Villa fans had gone since 1982 without a European trophy. Travis's reaction captures the moment perfectly: 'Prince William — the guy you want in the foxhole. They get relegated, he gets more into it.'

Claims made here

Championship clubs play approximately 40 matches per season, significantly more than Premier League clubs.

Prince William no source cited

Aston Villa won the European Cup in 1982, a month before Prince William was born.

Prince William no source cited

England won a domestic cup in 1996 and had not won a European trophy since 1982 before their recent Europa League win.

Prince William no source cited

Chapter 12 · 26:05

Relegation vs NFL Tanking: Could It Work in America?

Inspired by William's relegation story, Jason raises a pointed comparison to the NFL: American sports leagues have no relegation, which creates a perverse incentive for bad teams to lose intentionally in order to secure better draft picks. Relegation eliminates that — every game at every level has genuine stakes. William extends the argument: it's not just about punishing failure, it's about enabling dreams. The fact that any club in the English pyramid can theoretically reach the Premier League — given enough resources, luck, and talent — keeps the whole system alive with possibility. He cites Leicester City's improbable title win as the perfect illustration: a club most fans wrote off, celebrated by the entire nation when they won. 'There wasn't another football fan in the country that thought, good on Leicester, that was an amazing achievement,' William says.

Chapter 15 · 30:00

Post-Interview Reflection: 'What Is Life?'

The formal episode is over, but the brothers keep talking — and what spills out is the most unguarded moment of the whole recording. Travis lists the week's events: dunking with Will Ferrell, blocking a penalty from a pregnant Alex Morgan, and ending on a conversation with Prince William. His reaction is two words: 'What the fuck?' Jason notes, laughing, that when they started New Heights they thought they'd be talking to 'fat offensive linemen, not kings, queens, princes of other nations.' Jason briefly tries to bring up the Hessians — the German mercenaries hired by England during the Revolutionary War — before a producer intercedes and they agree to cut it. The episode ends with Jason's four-word verdict on this improbable new career chapter: 'Podcasting is great.'

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Prince William has been associated with the FA since around 2010, first as President and now as Patron.

Prince William no source cited

Aston Villa won the European Cup in 1982, a month before Prince William was born.

Prince William no source cited

Gareth Southgate played as a defender for Aston Villa in the year 2000 and featured in Prince William's first ever football match.

Prince William no source cited

Championship clubs play approximately 40 matches per season, significantly more than Premier League clubs.

Prince William no source cited

Travis Kelce scored a touchdown at Wembley Stadium in 2015 in an NFL international game against the Detroit Lions.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Harry Kane is closing in on Gary Lineker's England goal-scoring record and could become the greatest English striker ever.

Prince William no source cited

England won a domestic cup in 1996 and had not won a European trophy since 1982 before their recent Europa League win.

Prince William no source cited

The 2026 FIFA World Cup is being hosted across the US, Canada, and Mexico, making it the most geographically spread World Cup ever.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Jason Kelce attended the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil.

Jason Kelce no source cited

In a USA World Cup match against Paraguay, a player was given a yellow card that was reversed after VAR showed the opposing player had dived.

Jason Kelce no source cited

Jason Kelce has four daughters.

Jason Kelce no source cited

England's national team base camp for the 2026 FIFA World Cup is in Kansas City.

Travis Kelce no source cited