The kind of AI we actually need | Van Jones
Van Jones warns AI won't cause a robot apocalypse — it'll cause mass humiliation as abundance floods one side of the room and leaves everyone else ashamed and dangerous.
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The kind of AI we actually need | Van Jones
Van Jones warns AI won't cause a robot apocalypse — it'll cause mass humiliation as abundance floods one side of the room and leaves everyone else ashamed and dangerous.
TL;DR
Van Jones delivers an urgent TED2026 talk reframing the AI debate: the real danger isn't the technology itself but the "adaptation gap" — the dangerous distance between exponential tech growth and humanity's linear ability to keep up [1] — Van Jones "Job losses are bad, but humiliation is worse. When AI concentrates wealth on one side of the room and leaves everyone else watching, the sh…" 09:13 . Jones warns this gap risks not just mass unemployment but mass humiliation [2] — Van Jones "Mass humiliation risk: Jones warns that AI-driven wealth concentration risks not just mass unemployment but mass humiliation, which is hist…" 09:13 , and calls for a new social contract between big tech and humanity [3] — Van Jones "Power has migrated from Washington lawmaking to Silicon Valley code-writing, and there is no social contract governing that shift. Jones ca…" 09:58 . His solution pairs ancestral and community wisdom with Silicon Valley engineers, offering real-world examples of grassroots-AI collaboration already producing results. The single most useful takeaway: abundance without inclusion feels like scarcity.
Van Jones delivers an urgent TED2026 talk arguing the real AI danger is the 'adaptation gap' between exponential technology and linear human adaptability. He calls for a new social contract between big tech and humanity grounded in ancestral intelligence, and profiles grassroots-AI partnerships already bridging the divide.
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Elise Hu opens TED Talks Daily with a sharp provocation: we have a dangerous math problem on our hands. Technology is growing on an exponential curve, but humanity's capacity to keep up is stubbornly linear. The question she poses — are we wise enough for the world we're building? — sets the stage for Van Jones, whom she introduces as a TV host, author, and serial social entrepreneur with a track record of forging coalitions among people who disagree. She previews his core argument: that the adaptation gap isn't just a tech problem or a policy problem, it's a wisdom problem. And crucially, she teases his solution — that the wisdom needed already exists in places many of us have stopped looking.
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The episode breaks for a trio of paid sponsor segments before the main TED talk begins. Kohler leads with its Veil Smart Toilet — a sculptural design product with touchscreen controls and customizable cleansing, pitched as 150 years of mastery applied to an overlooked domestic ritual. Dell follows, promoting its XPS laptop powered by Intel Core Series 3 at $699 ($599 for students), emphasizing lightweight portability and multitasking power for back-to-school season. Finally, Walmart Business makes the case that great leadership happens when procurement friction disappears — offering an ever-expanding business assortment, everyday low prices, and fast shipping, all accessible via app, online, or in-store.
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Van Jones steps onto the TED stage with something rare: personal vulnerability wrapped in civilizational stakes. He is, he tells the audience, a 9th-generation American — and the first in his family born with all his rights recognized by the government [1] — Van Jones "9th-generation American: Van Jones is a 9th-generation American but the first in his family born with all his rights recognized by the gove…" 04:28 . Now he looks at his four children, two still in diapers, and wonders what kind of world they will inherit. The portrait he paints is both dazzling and unsettling: their first crushes may be AIs; they may design their own children through holographic biotech interfaces; longevity breakthroughs could have them running marathons at 120; and within 100 years, humanity will be a fully spacefaring civilization, with people potentially buried on the moon or Mars. The technology is extraordinary. But Jones's animating question is simpler and harder: will this world still be human? And will it be civilized?
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The conceptual heart of the talk arrives here. Jones identifies what he calls the adaptation gap: technology — AI, robotics, biotech, quantum computing, space exploration — is now advancing on an exponential curve, where the breakthrough of a decade is now not even the breakthrough of a day [1] — Van Jones "Technology is racing on an exponential curve while human adaptability follows a slow linear path. That widening gap — not the robots themse…" 06:38 . Humans, by contrast, evolve on a linear slope. We are not meaningfully smarter or faster than we were 5,000 years ago, let alone five weeks ago. That mismatch, Jones argues, is the real danger — not the robots themselves but the widening chasm between what the technology can do and what the average person can adapt to. His proposed solution is counterintuitive: don't try to slow the technology down. Congress, he quips, has never met a train it could catch. Instead, accelerate humanity.
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Jones pivots to a direct address of the tech community. The original New Deal was a contract between government and the people — forged because that was where power lived. But power has moved. The future is no longer written in laws in Washington D.C.; it is written in code in Silicon Valley [1] — Van Jones "Power has migrated from Washington lawmaking to Silicon Valley code-writing, and there is no social contract governing that shift. Jones ca…" 09:58 . And there is, as yet, no new deal to govern that shift. Jones is blunt about the failure of tech's dominant narrative: no one believes the promise that AI abundance will automatically benefit everyone. He uses a simple but devastating analogy — wheeling a barrow of diamonds and gold into a room and dumping it all on one side. The room technically becomes richer. But the people on the other side don't feel richer. They feel left out, ashamed, and increasingly dangerous.
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This is the emotional and intellectual peak of the talk. Jones argues that abundance without inclusion doesn't feel like abundance to those left behind — it feels like scarcity, because it is. When tech companies talk about scaling abundance, marginalized communities experience it as scaling scarcity [1] — Van Jones "Dump a wheelbarrow of gold on one side of the room and the other side doesn't feel richer — they feel poorer and ashamed. Tech companies th…" 10:40 . And scarcity that comes with a witness — children asking their parents why they don't have what others have — curdles into something more dangerous: shame and humiliation. Jones draws on his extensive work in the toughest prisons in the world to make the point visceral. The person with nothing, once humiliated, becomes the most dangerous person in the room even if they weigh 100 pounds. We are not just risking mass unemployment, he warns. We are risking mass humiliation. And that has to be avoided.
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Having diagnosed the problem, Jones turns to the cure — and addresses tech insiders directly. They are not just co-founding companies, he tells them. They are co-founding a new human civilization. That comes with temptations: money, fame, power, sex. And the thing that guards against those temptations is ancient intelligence — the wisdom embedded in mosques, temples, synagogues, churches, Native American ceremonies, and prayer circles [1] — Van Jones "Jones delivers an unexpected sermon to tech founders: temples, mosques, churches, and grandmothers hold something no algorithm has — the mo…" 11:58 . He is unapologetic in his reverence for 'little black churches that had nothing but praying hands and marching feet and changed a whole nation.' Don't underestimate your grandma, he tells the tech community. And don't miss the self-interested dimension: a greed-and-speed culture is bad for decision-making and bad for the heart. The grassroots needs tech, but tech needs the grassroots just as much.
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The most politically charged segment of the talk arrives when Jones holds a mirror up to his own side. Grassroots activists and progressive communities, he says, have been 'a bit much' for the past decade. The constant labeling — racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe — has made the coalition hard to enter [1] — Van Jones "It's not just tech that needs to change. Jones holds the progressive grassroots accountable too: too much name-calling, too much canceling,…" 13:55 . Jones doesn't deny the validity of those concerns; he questions the strategy. Call-out culture multiplies enemies, and big dreams require multiplied friends. He reaches for Dr. King, reframing him not as a civil rights historian but as a futurist: King's 'I Have a Dream' speech was about tomorrow, not yesterday. That forward-looking orientation — temporal hope rather than temporal dissociation — is the ancestral intelligence the grassroots has lost. Any politics that multiplies enemies, Jones argues, is inconsistent with the wisdom tradition it claims to inherit.
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Theory becomes practice in this segment as Jones offers four vivid proof-points. Andre Part, formerly incarcerated, teamed up with engineers to build Untapped Solutions — a LinkedIn for people with criminal records, now deploying AI agents to support social workers [1] — Van Jones "Andre Part built something Silicon Valley never would have thought to: a professional network for formerly incarcerated people. Now it's de…" 17:15 . Noelle Sudbury, a lawyer, is using AI to automatically expunge prison records. Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins and Diana Frappier built Promise into a billion-dollar company helping government be more frugal and humane rather than more lethal. And Tajiel Smith's Rapport, backed by Reid Hoffman, uses AI to raise EQ inside organizations rather than just IQ. Capping the list is John Hope Bryant's Hope AI, targeting 1 billion people becoming AI-literate in 10 years. Together these examples answer the skeptic: the incubators, venture studios, and funds that pair grassroots knowledge with engineering talent already exist. The blueprint just needs to be scaled.
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Jones brings his argument home with memorable symmetry. For tech: a little less greed and speed, a little more sharing and caring. For the grassroots: a little less shame and blame, a little more space and grace [1] — Van Jones "The answer is simple to state and hard to do: tech needs less greed and speed, more sharing and caring; activists need less shame and blame…" 19:05 . Put those two moves together, he says, and what emerges is a movement with enough magic, genius, hope, love, and power to create something extraordinary. And that creation — whatever it turns out to be — will someday be the ancestral intelligence for our children. It is a quietly radical idea: that the wisdom tradition we are trying to recover is not only behind us but also ahead of us, waiting to be built right now. The audience receives it with sustained applause.
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Elise Hu closes by attributing the talk to TED2026 and directing listeners to ted.com/curationguidelines for transparency on how TED selects its speakers. She credits the production team — Martha S. Stefanos, Oliver Friedman, Lucy Little, Emma Taubner, Tansyka Sangarnival, and others — before Capital One's sponsor segment airs. The Capital One read promotes Chat Concierge, their deployed multi-agentic AI that uses self-reflection and layered reasoning to help consumers shop for cars, get pre-approved for financing, schedule test drives, and estimate trade-in values — a fitting irony immediately after a talk about AI's societal impact.
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The episode ends with two post-roll sponsor segments. Progressive pitches its Name Your Price tool, which lets drivers specify what they want to pay for auto insurance and then shows matching coverage options — positioned as flexible and accessible for first-time policy holders and switchers alike. Aura follows with a data privacy pitch: data brokers are quietly buying and selling personal information at scale, enabling spam, scams, and stalking. Aura offers a comprehensive counter — active broker removal, dark web alerts, VPN, antivirus, password management, spam call protection, and up to five $1 million identity theft insurance policies, all bundled at the price competitors charge for a single service.
- Adaptation gap
- Van Jones's term for the dangerous distance between technology's exponential growth rate and humanity's slower, linear capacity to adapt to change.
- Ancestral intelligence
- Wisdom embedded in traditional communities, faith institutions, and intergenerational knowledge — Jones's term for the moral and practical guidance that ancient cultures have accumulated over millennia.
- Ancient intelligence (AI)
- Jones's deliberate reframing of the 'AI' acronym to stand for 'ancient intelligence' or 'ancestral intelligence,' contrasting with artificial intelligence to argue that older forms of wisdom are equally necessary.
- Exponential curve
- A growth pattern in which a quantity doubles repeatedly over equal time periods, resulting in explosive acceleration; used here to describe the pace of AI and related technology advancement.
- New Deal
- Franklin Roosevelt's 1930s government-to-people social contract; Jones uses the term metaphorically to call for an equivalent agreement between big tech companies and society at large.
- Social contract
- An implicit agreement among members of a society about mutual rights and duties; Jones argues no equivalent contract yet exists between the tech industry and the communities it disrupts.
- Mass humiliation
- Jones's term for the collective shame and loss of dignity experienced by communities left behind by AI-driven wealth concentration — he argues this is more dangerous than mere unemployment.
- Greed and speed trap
- Van Jones's phrase for the Silicon Valley cultural trap in which the only values that seem to matter are financial gain and rapid growth, crowding out ethics and human flourishing.
- Temporal dissociation
- Losing one's orientation in time; Jones uses it to warn activists against dwelling in the past rather than working toward a better future as Dr. King did.
- Futurist
- Someone focused on envisioning and shaping the future; Jones applies the term to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. to argue that King's dream speech was forward-looking, not backward-looking.
- Untapped Solutions
- A company co-founded by formerly incarcerated Andre Part that built a professional network for formerly incarcerated people and now deploys AI agents to support social workers.
- Promise (company)
- A billion-dollar AI company co-founded by Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins and Diana Frappier, designed to help governments operate more frugally and humanely rather than punitively.
- EQ (Emotional Quotient)
- A measure of emotional intelligence — the ability to recognise, understand, and manage emotions; contrasted here with IQ to argue AI should develop human empathy, not just cognitive ability.
- Spacefaring civilization
- A society capable of sustained human habitation and travel beyond Earth; Jones predicts humanity will achieve this status within 100 years.
- Holographic interface
- A hypothetical future display technology projecting three-dimensional images into space; Jones uses it to illustrate how radically the tools of daily life may change.
- Biotech
- Technology that uses biological systems or living organisms for industrial, medical, or design purposes; Jones references it in the context of future parents designing children using genetic tools.
- Lickety-split
- An informal American idiom meaning very quickly or at great speed; Jones uses it sarcastically to describe U.S. senators' alleged inability to act swiftly on AI regulation.
Chapter 1 · 00:00
Intro: The AI Paradox and Van Jones's Lens
Elise Hu opens TED Talks Daily with a sharp provocation: we have a dangerous math problem on our hands. Technology is growing on an exponential curve, but humanity's capacity to keep up is stubbornly linear. The question she poses — are we wise enough for the world we're building? — sets the stage for Van Jones, whom she introduces as a TV host, author, and serial social entrepreneur with a track record of forging coalitions among people who disagree. She previews his core argument: that the adaptation gap isn't just a tech problem or a policy problem, it's a wisdom problem. And crucially, she teases his solution — that the wisdom needed already exists in places many of us have stopped looking.
Chapter 2 · 01:35
Sponsor Break: Kohler, Dell, and Walmart Business
The episode breaks for a trio of paid sponsor segments before the main TED talk begins. Kohler leads with its Veil Smart Toilet — a sculptural design product with touchscreen controls and customizable cleansing, pitched as 150 years of mastery applied to an overlooked domestic ritual. Dell follows, promoting its XPS laptop powered by Intel Core Series 3 at $699 ($599 for students), emphasizing lightweight portability and multitasking power for back-to-school season. Finally, Walmart Business makes the case that great leadership happens when procurement friction disappears — offering an ever-expanding business assortment, everyday low prices, and fast shipping, all accessible via app, online, or in-store.
Claims made here
Kohler has been pushing design boundaries for over 150 years.
Van Jones is a 9th-generation American and the first in his family born with all his rights recognized by the U.S. government.
Kohler has been pushing design boundaries for over 150 years, cited during a sponsor read highlighting their smart toilet product.
Van Jones is a 9th-generation American but the first in his family born with all his rights recognized by the government, illustrating generational struggle for equity.
Chapter 3 · 04:29
Opening Vision: A New Human Civilization Being Born
Van Jones steps onto the TED stage with something rare: personal vulnerability wrapped in civilizational stakes. He is, he tells the audience, a 9th-generation American — and the first in his family born with all his rights recognized by the government [1] — Van Jones "9th-generation American: Van Jones is a 9th-generation American but the first in his family born with all his rights recognized by the gove…" 04:28 . Now he looks at his four children, two still in diapers, and wonders what kind of world they will inherit. The portrait he paints is both dazzling and unsettling: their first crushes may be AIs; they may design their own children through holographic biotech interfaces; longevity breakthroughs could have them running marathons at 120; and within 100 years, humanity will be a fully spacefaring civilization, with people potentially buried on the moon or Mars. The technology is extraordinary. But Jones's animating question is simpler and harder: will this world still be human? And will it be civilized?
Claims made here
Within 100 years, humanity will be a fully spacefaring civilization with people potentially buried on the moon or Mars.
Jones paints a visceral portrait of the civilization his toddlers will inherit: AI companions, biotech-designed children, marathon runners at 120, and funerals on Mars. The question isn't whether this world is coming — it's whether it will still be human and civilized.
Jones predicts his young children's first crushes will likely be an AI, signaling a fundamentally different human civilization already taking shape.
Jones projects humanity will be a fully spacefaring civilization within 100 years, with people potentially buried on the moon or Mars.
Chapter 4 · 06:38
The Adaptation Gap: Technology vs. Human Evolution
The conceptual heart of the talk arrives here. Jones identifies what he calls the adaptation gap: technology — AI, robotics, biotech, quantum computing, space exploration — is now advancing on an exponential curve, where the breakthrough of a decade is now not even the breakthrough of a day [1] — Van Jones "Technology is racing on an exponential curve while human adaptability follows a slow linear path. That widening gap — not the robots themse…" 06:38 . Humans, by contrast, evolve on a linear slope. We are not meaningfully smarter or faster than we were 5,000 years ago, let alone five weeks ago. That mismatch, Jones argues, is the real danger — not the robots themselves but the widening chasm between what the technology can do and what the average person can adapt to. His proposed solution is counterintuitive: don't try to slow the technology down. Congress, he quips, has never met a train it could catch. Instead, accelerate humanity.
Claims made here
Technology is advancing on an exponential curve while humans evolve on a linear slope, creating a dangerous adaptation gap.
Humans are not significantly smarter or faster than they were 5,000 years ago.
Technology is racing on an exponential curve while human adaptability follows a slow linear path. That widening gap — not the robots themselves — is the real danger, and it threatens mass social unrest on a scale few are willing to name.
Technology grows exponentially while human adaptability follows a linear path, creating a dangerous 'adaptation gap' that threatens social stability.
Van Jones argues humans are not significantly smarter or faster than they were 5,000 years ago, underscoring the scale of the adaptation gap problem.
Congress cannot catch a train moving this fast — Van Jones makes that case with dry wit and moves on to the real solution: accelerating humanity's wisdom and adaptability instead of trying to slow the technology down.
Chapter 5 · 08:30
The New Deal: Big Tech Must Forge a Social Contract with Humanity
Jones pivots to a direct address of the tech community. The original New Deal was a contract between government and the people — forged because that was where power lived. But power has moved. The future is no longer written in laws in Washington D.C.; it is written in code in Silicon Valley [1] — Van Jones "Power has migrated from Washington lawmaking to Silicon Valley code-writing, and there is no social contract governing that shift. Jones ca…" 09:58 . And there is, as yet, no new deal to govern that shift. Jones is blunt about the failure of tech's dominant narrative: no one believes the promise that AI abundance will automatically benefit everyone. He uses a simple but devastating analogy — wheeling a barrow of diamonds and gold into a room and dumping it all on one side. The room technically becomes richer. But the people on the other side don't feel richer. They feel left out, ashamed, and increasingly dangerous.
Job losses are bad, but humiliation is worse. When AI concentrates wealth on one side of the room and leaves everyone else watching, the shame and humiliation that follow are more dangerous than the poverty itself — a lesson Jones learned in the toughest prisons on earth.
Jones warns that AI-driven wealth concentration risks not just mass unemployment but mass humiliation, which is historically the most dangerous social condition.
Power has migrated from Washington lawmaking to Silicon Valley code-writing, and there is no social contract governing that shift. Jones calls for a new deal between big tech and humanity — and says nobody believes the 'abundance will trickle down' line anymore.
Jones argues the locus of societal power has shifted from Washington D.C. lawmaking to Silicon Valley code-writing, demanding a new social contract.
Dump a wheelbarrow of gold on one side of the room and the other side doesn't feel richer — they feel poorer and ashamed. Tech companies think they're scaling abundance; the people left out experience it as scaling scarcity.
Chapter 6 · 10:50
Abundance Without Inclusion Is Scarcity — And Scarcity Becomes Humiliation
This is the emotional and intellectual peak of the talk. Jones argues that abundance without inclusion doesn't feel like abundance to those left behind — it feels like scarcity, because it is. When tech companies talk about scaling abundance, marginalized communities experience it as scaling scarcity [1] — Van Jones "Dump a wheelbarrow of gold on one side of the room and the other side doesn't feel richer — they feel poorer and ashamed. Tech companies th…" 10:40 . And scarcity that comes with a witness — children asking their parents why they don't have what others have — curdles into something more dangerous: shame and humiliation. Jones draws on his extensive work in the toughest prisons in the world to make the point visceral. The person with nothing, once humiliated, becomes the most dangerous person in the room even if they weigh 100 pounds. We are not just risking mass unemployment, he warns. We are risking mass humiliation. And that has to be avoided.
Jones illustrates that tech abundance dumped on only one side of the room is experienced by others as scaling scarcity, not wealth.
Jones delivers an unexpected sermon to tech founders: temples, mosques, churches, and grandmothers hold something no algorithm has — the moral scaffolding that keeps power from becoming destruction. Greed and speed are not values. They're a trap.
Chapter 7 · 12:10
An Invitation to Tech: Return to Ancient and Ancestral Intelligence
Having diagnosed the problem, Jones turns to the cure — and addresses tech insiders directly. They are not just co-founding companies, he tells them. They are co-founding a new human civilization. That comes with temptations: money, fame, power, sex. And the thing that guards against those temptations is ancient intelligence — the wisdom embedded in mosques, temples, synagogues, churches, Native American ceremonies, and prayer circles [1] — Van Jones "Jones delivers an unexpected sermon to tech founders: temples, mosques, churches, and grandmothers hold something no algorithm has — the mo…" 11:58 . He is unapologetic in his reverence for 'little black churches that had nothing but praying hands and marching feet and changed a whole nation.' Don't underestimate your grandma, he tells the tech community. And don't miss the self-interested dimension: a greed-and-speed culture is bad for decision-making and bad for the heart. The grassroots needs tech, but tech needs the grassroots just as much.
Chapter 8 · 13:55
A Challenge to Activists: Trade Shame and Blame for Space and Grace
The most politically charged segment of the talk arrives when Jones holds a mirror up to his own side. Grassroots activists and progressive communities, he says, have been 'a bit much' for the past decade. The constant labeling — racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe — has made the coalition hard to enter [1] — Van Jones "It's not just tech that needs to change. Jones holds the progressive grassroots accountable too: too much name-calling, too much canceling,…" 13:55 . Jones doesn't deny the validity of those concerns; he questions the strategy. Call-out culture multiplies enemies, and big dreams require multiplied friends. He reaches for Dr. King, reframing him not as a civil rights historian but as a futurist: King's 'I Have a Dream' speech was about tomorrow, not yesterday. That forward-looking orientation — temporal hope rather than temporal dissociation — is the ancestral intelligence the grassroots has lost. Any politics that multiplies enemies, Jones argues, is inconsistent with the wisdom tradition it claims to inherit.
It's not just tech that needs to change. Jones holds the progressive grassroots accountable too: too much name-calling, too much canceling, and a fatal swap of Dr. King's futurist dreaming for a politics of complaint that multiplies enemies instead of friends.
Chapter 9 · 16:40
Real-World Models: Grassroots-AI Partnerships Already Working
Theory becomes practice in this segment as Jones offers four vivid proof-points. Andre Part, formerly incarcerated, teamed up with engineers to build Untapped Solutions — a LinkedIn for people with criminal records, now deploying AI agents to support social workers [1] — Van Jones "Andre Part built something Silicon Valley never would have thought to: a professional network for formerly incarcerated people. Now it's de…" 17:15 . Noelle Sudbury, a lawyer, is using AI to automatically expunge prison records. Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins and Diana Frappier built Promise into a billion-dollar company helping government be more frugal and humane rather than more lethal. And Tajiel Smith's Rapport, backed by Reid Hoffman, uses AI to raise EQ inside organizations rather than just IQ. Capping the list is John Hope Bryant's Hope AI, targeting 1 billion people becoming AI-literate in 10 years. Together these examples answer the skeptic: the incubators, venture studios, and funds that pair grassroots knowledge with engineering talent already exist. The blueprint just needs to be scaled.
Claims made here
Andre Part, formerly incarcerated, built Untapped Solutions, a LinkedIn-style network for formerly incarcerated people, now deploying AI agents to help social workers.
Noelle Sudbury, a lawyer, is using AI to expunge people's prison records.
Promise, co-founded by Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins and Diana Frappier, is a billion-dollar AI company helping governments be more frugal and helpful.
Rapport, a company backed by Reid Hoffman, uses AI to increase emotional intelligence (EQ) inside firms.
John Hope Bryant's Hope AI aims to make 1 billion grassroots people AI-literate in the next 10 years.
Andre Part built something Silicon Valley never would have thought to: a professional network for formerly incarcerated people. Now it's deploying AI agents to help social workers. This is what pairing grassroots knowledge with engineering talent actually looks like.
Andre Part, formerly incarcerated, partnered with engineers to build Untapped Solutions, a LinkedIn-style platform for formerly incarcerated people, now deploying AI agents to assist social workers.
Promise is a billion-dollar company using AI to help governments be more frugal and helpful rather than more lethal. It's one of Jones's clearest examples that pairing engineers with people who know the community produces solutions no purely technical team would find.
Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins and Diana Frappier built Promise into a billion-dollar company helping governments be more frugal and helpful rather than more lethal.
John Hope Bryant launched Hope AI with the goal of making 1 billion grassroots people AI-literate in the next 10 years. The goal isn't just inclusion — it's unleashing the next wave of companies from communities that power has long overlooked.
John Hope Bryant's Hope AI initiative aims to make 1 billion grassroots people AI-literate within the next 10 years to enable broader economic participation.
Chapter 10 · 19:05
Closing Vision: The New Deal Formula and a Movement with Magic
Jones brings his argument home with memorable symmetry. For tech: a little less greed and speed, a little more sharing and caring. For the grassroots: a little less shame and blame, a little more space and grace [1] — Van Jones "The answer is simple to state and hard to do: tech needs less greed and speed, more sharing and caring; activists need less shame and blame…" 19:05 . Put those two moves together, he says, and what emerges is a movement with enough magic, genius, hope, love, and power to create something extraordinary. And that creation — whatever it turns out to be — will someday be the ancestral intelligence for our children. It is a quietly radical idea: that the wisdom tradition we are trying to recover is not only behind us but also ahead of us, waiting to be built right now. The audience receives it with sustained applause.
The answer is simple to state and hard to do: tech needs less greed and speed, more sharing and caring; activists need less shame and blame, more space and grace. Put those together and you get a movement with enough magic to become the ancestral intelligence of the future.
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TV host, author, and social entrepreneur delivering a TED2026 talk on AI, wisdom, and the adaptation gap.
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Invoked by Van Jones as a model futurist who dreamed of tomorrow rather than dwelling on past grievances.
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Founder of Hope AI, which aims to make 1 billion people AI-literate in 10 years.
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Co-founder of Promise, a billion-dollar AI company helping governments operate more humanely.
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LinkedIn co-founder cited as a backer of Rapport, the AI-EQ firm Jones supports.
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The organization that hosted Van Jones's talk at TED2026 and produces TED Talks Daily.
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Sponsor of the episode; maker of the Veil Smart Toilet, cited as a 150-year-old design company.
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Episode sponsor offering data broker removal, VPN, antivirus, and identity theft insurance in one app.
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Episode sponsor highlighting their Chat Concierge multi-agentic AI tool for car shopping.
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John Hope Bryant's initiative to make 1 billion grassroots people AI-literate within 10 years.
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A billion-dollar AI company co-founded by Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins and Diana Frappier to help governments operate more frugally and humanely.
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A company backed by Reid Hoffman using AI to increase emotional intelligence (EQ) inside firms, supported by Van Jones.
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A LinkedIn-style professional network for formerly incarcerated people, now deploying AI agents to assist social workers, cited as a model grassroots-AI partnership.
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Cited as the new locus of societal power where the future is written in code rather than in Washington D.C. laws.
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Cited as the former locus of societal power through legislation, now superseded by Silicon Valley's code-writing.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
Technology is advancing on an exponential curve while humans evolve on a linear slope, creating a dangerous adaptation gap.
Humans are not significantly smarter or faster than they were 5,000 years ago.
Within 100 years, humanity will be a fully spacefaring civilization with people potentially buried on the moon or Mars.
Van Jones is a 9th-generation American and the first in his family born with all his rights recognized by the U.S. government.
Promise, co-founded by Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins and Diana Frappier, is a billion-dollar AI company helping governments be more frugal and helpful.
John Hope Bryant's Hope AI aims to make 1 billion grassroots people AI-literate in the next 10 years.
Rapport, a company backed by Reid Hoffman, uses AI to increase emotional intelligence (EQ) inside firms.
Noelle Sudbury, a lawyer, is using AI to expunge people's prison records.
Andre Part, formerly incarcerated, built Untapped Solutions, a LinkedIn-style network for formerly incarcerated people, now deploying AI agents to help social workers.
Kohler has been pushing design boundaries for over 150 years.
Capital One has already deployed a multi-agentic AI system called Chat Concierge that simplifies car shopping using self-reflection, layered reasoning, and live API checks.
Data brokers are making billions packaging and selling personal information pulled from public records and the internet, usually without individuals' consent.