A Crazy NBA Month With Zach Lowe, Plus Taylor Sheridan on Building a TV Empire and the Problems With Hollywood

A Crazy NBA Month With Zach Lowe, Plus Taylor Sheridan on Building a TV Empire and the Problems With Hollywood

Taylor Sheridan told Billy Bob Thornton he wanted to make "a drama with Bad Santa running an oil company" — and Thornton immediately said yes without reading a single word.

Jun 29, 2026 2:45:24 Difficulty: Beginner Played

TL;DR

Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe dissect a chaotic NBA offseason live on Netflix, covering Jaylen Brown trade rumors, the LaMelo Ball-to-Minnesota deal, Charlotte's asset accumulation strategy, and LeBron's potential landing spots. Then Taylor Sheridan joins to discuss his new book *How to Not Die in Prison*, his unconventional path from actor to TV empire-builder, his streamlined production system, and why creative control — not committees — makes great television. Key takeaway: Sheridan's secret is writing for specific actors before a word exists on the page.

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Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe go live on Netflix to break down the Jaylen Brown trade rumors, the LaMelo Ball trade to Minnesota, Miles Bridges to the Suns, and LeBron James' possible next team. Then Taylor Sheridan joins to discuss his new book How to Not Die in Prison, his screenwriting origins, his production system, and the building of his TV empire.

Chapter list
  • The episode opens with sponsor reads for PNC Bank and PayPal, with the PayPal read working in a sports analogy about clutch moves and reward-stacking. Bill Simmons frames the episode as a live Netflix event, promising Zach Lowe for the NBA segment and Taylor Sheridan, creator of Yellowstone, for the back half. He mentions Lowe is coming off a Croatia World Cup win in Philadelphia, setting a loose, celebratory tone before diving into some of the most consequential NBA news of the offseason.

  • With Brown's trade market assessed, Simmons runs through the realistic landing spots. He quickly dismisses New Orleans (Murphy, Poole, and picks may not even get a yes), Portland (Jrue Holiday and Kamar Young is interesting but doesn't move the needle publicly), and Houston (who has inexplicably told teams they're not interested). The centerpiece of the segment is the Denver proposal: Murray and Cam Johnson for Brown and Hauser, saving Denver $10M annually while giving Boston a healthy, versatile star. Simmons argues Denver could reload with that savings, re-sign Peyton Watson, and build a bigger, deeper team around Jokic. Lowe pushes back, noting Denver would be left with virtually no proven rotation guards and a significant offensive adjustment, but ultimately agrees the trade has real merit for both sides. The question, they agree, is whether Denver has a long enough meeting about it — because they're at a genuine franchise crossroads.

  • The LaMelo Ball trade to Minnesota triggers one of Simmons' most emphatic takes of the episode. He'd never have done it — LaMelo has played just 9,400 minutes across 6 seasons with zero playoff appearances, putting him in historically rare company alongside Ja Morant and Zion Williamson as high-usage scorers who simply don't play. Charlotte was clearly managing his minutes all year (27.5 per game from mid-November onward), almost as though they knew a trade was coming. For Minnesota, Simmons sees a franchise chasing its own tail — from the Gobert trade that made the KAT deal inevitable, to the Randle dump, to this Hail Mary for a guard who may never hold up for a 37-minute playoff game. Lowe is more generous, grading it a B for both teams and arguing that in isolation — without factoring in the Randle trade and the asset depletion context — it's not an outrageous price for a player of LaMelo's ceiling. Both agree, however, that the real test isn't the regular season: it's April and May, when LaMelo will need to be a different player against the physicality of OKC and San Antonio.

  • With LeBron's future unresolved, Simmons and Lowe work through the realistic options. Simmons has said Golden State for three months and sticks with it, while also making the basketball case for San Antonio: the Spurs were a Finals contender who appeared to be missing one veteran leader, the money works with Cornette and Keldon Johnson's expirings, and at 41 years old nobody is going to begrudge LeBron chasing another ring. Lowe flags San Antonio's dignity as a franchise — it befits how LeBron sees himself. Denver comes up briefly (Jokic + LeBron would be mesmerizing) but the money is tight. Golden State wins the 'most fun' vote from both hosts: the LeBron-Curry rivalry arc — from bitter Finals opponents through Team USA's 2024 Olympics run — has transformed into something that could close beautifully if they won together. Both agree Anthony Davis to Washington is the most likely blockbuster of the summer, and Simmons floats Detroit and a weird LeBron destination as the wildcard 'wow' moments to watch for.

  • Sheridan traces the book's origins to around 2003-2004, when he met a heavily tattooed former career criminal at a West Hollywood gym — a man who'd spent most of his adult life in state and federal prison before discovering fitness and getting clean. The two became close; the ex-con trained Sheridan's wife, eventually opened his own gym, and became the largest privately-owned personal training operation in LA. The friendship cooled during Sheridan's Wyoming move, then revived when the man called in 2021, a single father with a terminal health scare, an ex-felon unable to find stable enough work to support his young daughter, and one month's rent left. Rather than loan money (which Sheridan says has a 100% failure rate for friendships), he proposed a book modeled on Robert Young Pelton's The World's Most Dangerous Places: a travel guide to prison, written with the expertise of someone who spent 17 years inside. Simon & Schuster bought it quickly, and the two collaborated to produce what Sheridan describes as an honest, sometimes funny, genuinely deterring account of surviving incarceration.

Second apron
An NBA luxury tax threshold well above the salary cap; teams exceeding it face severe restrictions on trades, free agent signings, and draft asset movement.
Trade exception
A one-time salary slot created in certain NBA trades that allows a team to absorb salary without giving up players in return.
Spec script
A screenplay written without a commission or guaranteed buyer, on speculation that it can be sold; Taylor Sheridan writes all his scripts this way.
Pick swap
An NBA trade arrangement where a team has the option to exchange draft picks with another team, choosing whichever pick is more favorable.
Apron
In NBA finance, a spending threshold (typically the 'hard cap' or 'second apron') above which teams face escalating penalties for player transactions.
Wildcat / Wildcatter
An oil driller who sinks wells in unproven territory, betting everything on finding oil where none has been confirmed; used in Landman to describe high-risk entrepreneurs.
Mid-level exception
An NBA mechanism allowing teams over the salary cap to sign free agents for roughly the average player salary; a key roster-building tool.
Five-act structure
A dramatic framework with five distinct dramatic movements rather than the standard three acts; Taylor Sheridan used it deliberately in Sicario to disorient viewers.
Ground branch
CIA Ground Branch — the agency's paramilitary special operations unit, referenced by Sheridan in describing his character on Lioness.
Guerrilla filmmaking
Low-budget, fast-moving film production with minimal crew and equipment, often without official permissions; Sheridan used this approach on his early independent films.
PPE (Paycheck Protection Program)
A US government COVID-19 relief loan program for small businesses; Sheridan references it when his co-author's gym was shut down during lockdowns.
Journeyman actor
A working actor who consistently finds employment in smaller roles without becoming a star; Taylor Sheridan describes his own early career this way.
Fortuitous
Happening by lucky chance rather than design; Sheridan uses it to distinguish earned success from dumb luck when discussing Denis Villeneuve's involvement in Sicario.
Vaudevillian
Resembling vaudeville — broad, theatrical, comic entertainment; Sheridan uses it to describe the cartoonish, comedic moments he deliberately includes in otherwise serious dramas like Landman.
Toothpaste back in the tube
Idiom meaning to reverse something that cannot be undone; used by Simmons and Lowe to describe whether Boston could walk back the Jaylen Brown trade situation.
Ring chase
When a veteran player joins a championship-contending team primarily to win a title rather than for competitive reasons; discussed in the context of LeBron's potential next move.
Schizophrenic (tonal)
In storytelling, shifting unpredictably between dramatic registers — serious drama and broad comedy — within the same show; Sheridan uses this to describe Landman's intentional tonal range.
Omnibus
Not used explicitly, but Sheridan's description of his TV universe functions like one — multiple self-contained stories set in an interconnected world.
Becquerel / Second-round pick (NBA context)
A draft selection in rounds 13-60 of the NBA draft with significantly lower perceived value than first-round picks, often included in trades as sweeteners.

Chapter 2 · 01:15

Jaylen Brown trade rumors

With Brown's trade market assessed, Simmons runs through the realistic landing spots. He quickly dismisses New Orleans (Murphy, Poole, and picks may not even get a yes), Portland (Jrue Holiday and Kamar Young is interesting but doesn't move the needle publicly), and Houston (who has inexplicably told teams they're not interested). The centerpiece of the segment is the Denver proposal: Murray and Cam Johnson for Brown and Hauser, saving Denver $10M annually while giving Boston a healthy, versatile star. Simmons argues Denver could reload with that savings, re-sign Peyton Watson, and build a bigger, deeper team around Jokic. Lowe pushes back, noting Denver would be left with virtually no proven rotation guards and a significant offensive adjustment, but ultimately agrees the trade has real merit for both sides. The question, they agree, is whether Denver has a long enough meeting about it — because they're at a genuine franchise crossroads.

Claims made here

The Celtics went 56-23 in the last 79 games of the season and ranked second in offensive rating while Jaylen Brown was their primary star with Tatum injured.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Jaylen Brown played almost 26,000 regular season minutes and nearly 5,000 playoff minutes over 10 seasons.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Chapter 3 · 34:29

LaMelo Ball traded to the Wolves

The LaMelo Ball trade to Minnesota triggers one of Simmons' most emphatic takes of the episode. He'd never have done it — LaMelo has played just 9,400 minutes across 6 seasons with zero playoff appearances, putting him in historically rare company alongside Ja Morant and Zion Williamson as high-usage scorers who simply don't play. Charlotte was clearly managing his minutes all year (27.5 per game from mid-November onward), almost as though they knew a trade was coming. For Minnesota, Simmons sees a franchise chasing its own tail — from the Gobert trade that made the KAT deal inevitable, to the Randle dump, to this Hail Mary for a guard who may never hold up for a 37-minute playoff game. Lowe is more generous, grading it a B for both teams and arguing that in isolation — without factoring in the Randle trade and the asset depletion context — it's not an outrageous price for a player of LaMelo's ceiling. Both agree, however, that the real test isn't the regular season: it's April and May, when LaMelo will need to be a different player against the physicality of OKC and San Antonio.

Claims made here

LaMelo Ball averaged 27.5 minutes per game from mid-November onward last season in Charlotte.

Bill Simmons no source cited

LaMelo Ball played only 9,400 minutes across 6 NBA seasons with zero playoff appearances, placing him among the least durable good guards of the last 25 years.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Minnesota does not control their own first-round draft pick for 7 years after acquiring LaMelo Ball.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Minnesota has approximately $11 million left to spend on 4 roster spots after their recent trades.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Io (who was acquired for a second-round pick) signed a 5-year, $112 million contract with Minnesota.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Chapter 4 · 54:23

Miles Bridges to the Suns and other trade news

With LeBron's future unresolved, Simmons and Lowe work through the realistic options. Simmons has said Golden State for three months and sticks with it, while also making the basketball case for San Antonio: the Spurs were a Finals contender who appeared to be missing one veteran leader, the money works with Cornette and Keldon Johnson's expirings, and at 41 years old nobody is going to begrudge LeBron chasing another ring. Lowe flags San Antonio's dignity as a franchise — it befits how LeBron sees himself. Denver comes up briefly (Jokic + LeBron would be mesmerizing) but the money is tight. Golden State wins the 'most fun' vote from both hosts: the LeBron-Curry rivalry arc — from bitter Finals opponents through Team USA's 2024 Olympics run — has transformed into something that could close beautifully if they won together. Both agree Anthony Davis to Washington is the most likely blockbuster of the summer, and Simmons floats Detroit and a weird LeBron destination as the wildcard 'wow' moments to watch for.

Claims made here

Charlotte traded $78 million in salary (LaMelo, Green, Bridges) and received $52 million in return (Nas Reid, O'Neal, Grace Nowen), while also generating a $41 million trade exception.

Bill Simmons no source cited

FanDuel win total odds imply Minnesota is projected at around 50 wins next season and Miami around 46-47 wins.

Bill Simmons FanDuel odds

Sports
Data point $41M

A Crazy NBA Month With Zach Lowe, Plus Taylor Sheridan on B… · Jun 29, 2026 Sports

Charlotte flipped $78M in salary to $52M, generated a $41M trade exception, loaded up on first-round picks, and has the infrastructure to build something real. They may have just become the best-positioned franchise in the Eastern Conference for the next 7 years.

Chapter 5 · 1:26:40

Taylor Sheridan on his new book, screenwriting, and more!

Sheridan traces the book's origins to around 2003-2004, when he met a heavily tattooed former career criminal at a West Hollywood gym — a man who'd spent most of his adult life in state and federal prison before discovering fitness and getting clean. The two became close; the ex-con trained Sheridan's wife, eventually opened his own gym, and became the largest privately-owned personal training operation in LA. The friendship cooled during Sheridan's Wyoming move, then revived when the man called in 2021, a single father with a terminal health scare, an ex-felon unable to find stable enough work to support his young daughter, and one month's rent left. Rather than loan money (which Sheridan says has a 100% failure rate for friendships), he proposed a book modeled on Robert Young Pelton's The World's Most Dangerous Places: a travel guide to prison, written with the expertise of someone who spent 17 years inside. Simon & Schuster bought it quickly, and the two collaborated to produce what Sheridan describes as an honest, sometimes funny, genuinely deterring account of surviving incarceration.

Claims made here

Taylor Sheridan's co-author for How to Not Die in Prison spent 17 years in state and federal prisons as a career criminal before becoming a personal trainer.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan was the first film/TV production in the US to resume filming during COVID-19, by isolating his crew on a Montana ranch.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan began screenwriting at approximately age 41 after spending 15 years as an actor.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Taylor Sheridan's Wind River was financed by an Indian tribe in Louisiana, and Sheridan never met the financiers during production.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

David E. Kelley was simultaneously writing Chicago Hope, The Practice, and Picket Fences — three shows — by himself.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan's production company makes television at a $35 million per episode scale using the same creative system developed on low-budget indie films.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Kevin Costner was originally only contracted for the first 3 seasons of Yellowstone; the show's massive success convinced him to stay for 2 more.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Yellowstone was first sold to HBO in 2015, who passed on it; Paramount then picked it up, shocked it was still available.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan quit Sons of Anarchy in 2010 to begin screenwriting after the show offered him disrespectfully low pay.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

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Jaylen Brown played almost 26,000 regular season minutes and nearly 5,000 playoff minutes over 10 seasons.

Bill Simmons no source cited

LaMelo Ball played only 9,400 minutes across 6 NBA seasons with zero playoff appearances, placing him among the least durable good guards of the last 25 years.

Bill Simmons no source cited

The Celtics went 56-23 in the last 79 games of the season and ranked second in offensive rating while Jaylen Brown was their primary star with Tatum injured.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Charlotte traded $78 million in salary (LaMelo, Green, Bridges) and received $52 million in return (Nas Reid, O'Neal, Grace Nowen), while also generating a $41 million trade exception.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Minnesota does not control their own first-round draft pick for 7 years after acquiring LaMelo Ball.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Taylor Sheridan began screenwriting at approximately age 41 after spending 15 years as an actor.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Taylor Sheridan's co-author for How to Not Die in Prison spent 17 years in state and federal prisons as a career criminal before becoming a personal trainer.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan was the first film/TV production in the US to resume filming during COVID-19, by isolating his crew on a Montana ranch.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Yellowstone was first sold to HBO in 2015, who passed on it; Paramount then picked it up, shocked it was still available.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan's Wind River was financed by an Indian tribe in Louisiana, and Sheridan never met the financiers during production.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Kevin Costner was originally only contracted for the first 3 seasons of Yellowstone; the show's massive success convinced him to stay for 2 more.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

FanDuel win total odds imply Minnesota is projected at around 50 wins next season and Miami around 46-47 wins.

Bill Simmons FanDuel odds

David E. Kelley was simultaneously writing Chicago Hope, The Practice, and Picket Fences — three shows — by himself.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan quit Sons of Anarchy in 2010 to begin screenwriting after the show offered him disrespectfully low pay.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Taylor Sheridan's production company makes television at a $35 million per episode scale using the same creative system developed on low-budget indie films.

Taylor Sheridan no source cited

Minnesota has approximately $11 million left to spend on 4 roster spots after their recent trades.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Io (who was acquired for a second-round pick) signed a 5-year, $112 million contract with Minnesota.

Bill Simmons no source cited

LaMelo Ball averaged 27.5 minutes per game from mid-November onward last season in Charlotte.

Bill Simmons no source cited