Maura played 10-13 minutes per game in his first two years at UCLA before playing 23.4 minutes per game at Michigan last season.
NBA Draft Questions, Harper vs. Fox, and the USMNT’s World Cup Ceiling
Tim Legler says Dylan Harper has a chance to be one of the best guards of the last 30 years — and Bill Simmons agrees — after his transcendent rookie NBA Finals performance against a loaded Spurs defense.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
NBA Draft Questions, Harper vs. Fox, and the USMNT’s World Cup Ceiling
Tim Legler says Dylan Harper has a chance to be one of the best guards of the last 30 years — and Bill Simmons agrees — after his transcendent rookie NBA Finals performance against a loaded Spurs defense.
TL;DR
Bill Simmons and Tim Legler break down the 2026 NBA Draft, zeroing in on the top four picks — AJ Dybantsi (the consensus #1), Darren Peterson's red flags, Caleb Wilson's upside, and Boozer's Kevin Love-like floor [1] — Tim Legler "AJ Dybantsi is the clear #1 pick because he does everything at a high level — size, toughness, athleticism, skill — and his ceiling is stil…" 12:30 . They then dissect Dylan Harper's transcendent rookie Finals run versus De'Aaron Fox's meltdown [2] — Bill Simmons "Dylan Harper didn't rush anything in the NBA Finals. Against elite defenders, he controlled his body, finished with English on the ball, an…" 1:09:50 , and debate Giannis trade destinations. Anthony Dabbundo joins to celebrate the USMNT's dominant 4-1 win over Paraguay while sounding the alarm on Pulisic's health — the key takeaway: the US ceiling is "as far as we can go before facing France, Spain, England, or Argentina" [3] — Anthony Dabbundo "The US ceiling is simple: go as far as you can before running into France, Spain, England, or Argentina. They can realistically reach the q…" 2:02:40 .
Bill Simmons previews the NBA Draft with ESPN analyst Tim Legler, discussing the top four picks, player comps, and team fits. Then Anthony Dabbundo joins to recap the USMNT's 4-1 win over Paraguay and assess the team's World Cup ceiling, including Pulisic's injury concern and the path to the quarterfinals.
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The episode opens with a PNC Bank sponsor read emphasizing fundamentals-based banking, followed by a PayPal rewards pitch. Bill Simmons then previews the two main segments: a deep NBA Draft breakdown with Tim Legler, who is newly announced as part of ESPN's draft coverage team, and a World Cup discussion with Anthony Dabbundo following the USMNT's stunning 4-1 win over Paraguay. Simmons also teases a Sunday Netflix live show with Zach Lowe and possibly a mystery third guest.
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Legler leads with Mikal Brown as his first choice after the top four — a polished scorer with range and handle projected 7-10. Simmons counterpoints with his infatuation with Acuff, comparing him to Kyrie for his creative finishing and stop-start mastery, calling him a true lead guard. Wagler gets praised for his shooting mechanics — full extension, elbow and wrist lock simultaneously — a trait that translates directly to the NBA level. Burrys earns Simmons's highest praise for his off-ball skills: coming off down screens, hips turning, releasing quickly without needing a rhythm dribble. The Clippers dilemma at #5 — they have Garland at point guard and a 35-year-old Kawhi — makes Acuff an awkward fit and Burrys a sensible option if they trade back. Steinbach is flagged as athletic and physically imposing but too limited for the top 10.
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Legler refuses to walk back his claim: what Brunson did — against Vassell, Castle, Harper, Champagny, and Wemby behind them all — was mind-blowing from courtside. It wasn't athleticism. It was strength, balance, footwork, touch, IQ, and an ability to actually thrive under pressure that barely anyone possesses. The physical profile said he shouldn't be able to do this, but that's what made it remarkable. Simmons layers on the Prefontaine metaphor: the Knicks liked being down 10, liked the pressure building, knew exactly when they would make their move. The Spurs, by contrast, had no settle-down guy — Wemby isn't there yet — and eventually their will broke. A Bucks fan email triggers a brief Giannis 50-point closeout Game comparison, where Simmons distinguishes what makes Brunson's series different: the inevitability of the scoring runs.
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Legler nominates Golden State from the heart — he wants Steph Curry to have meaningful playoff moments at the end of his career and Giannis would provide that. Simmons suspects Anthony Davis ends up there instead. On the Celtics trade: three-quarters of Boston's fanbase probably prefers running it back, and Simmons agrees, worried about what it does to Jaylen Brown's dynamic. Once you've tasted being the guy, can you go back to 1A? Simmons says if he's trading Brown, he'd explore New Orleans — Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, a pick, and better contract flexibility. The Miami Giannis trade makes no sense to either host: Milwaukee doesn't get enough back in the trade, and Miami doesn't know if a Giannis-Bam core can even win a playoff series given Giannis's physical mileage. The Eastern Conference picture: Simmons and Legler both believe the Knicks are the clear favorites, with Boston a strong third behind OKC and San Antonio on most lists.
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Dabbundo nominates Germany as the fifth team to watch despite 14-1 odds — their attacking talent is formidable, but their defense has failed them for multiple World Cup cycles and a potential France clash on July 4th in Philly looms. The US bracket situation is laid out: finish first, and the round of 16 is in Santa Clara; win that, and it's Seattle July 6th; win again, quarterfinals at SoFi July 10th. Dabbundo's official prediction is the US wins their first two knockout games — potentially beating Belgium in the round of 16 for 2014 revenge — before running into Spain in the quarterfinals. He notes that with quarterfinals odds at +180, the market implies roughly a 37% chance of the US reaching the final eight. The episode closes with Simmons tipping the Sunday Netflix live show with Zach Lowe.
- Player comp
- A player comparison used in draft analysis to describe which established NBA player a prospect most resembles in style or profile.
- Floor (draft context)
- The minimum level of NBA success a draft prospect is expected to reach, even if things don't go perfectly.
- Ceiling (draft context)
- The maximum potential level of NBA success a draft prospect could reach under ideal development conditions.
- Playoff guy
- Bill Simmons's term for a player whose specific skills — defending, shooting threes, rim protection — make them viable and effective in playoff series.
- Down screen
- A basketball screen set by a player moving toward the basket, designed to free a teammate for an open shot near the three-point line.
- Pin-down
- A set play where a big player screens for a guard or wing cutting toward the ball, creating an open catch-and-shoot opportunity.
- Short roll
- When a ball-screen setter rolls only partway to the basket and catches the ball at the elbow or mid-range area for a shot or pass.
- Ball screen
- A screen set directly on the player with the ball to free them from their defender, commonly used in pick-and-roll actions.
- Park the bus
- A soccer tactic in which a team deploys most of its players behind the ball in a defensive block, prioritizing not conceding over attacking.
- Pressing
- An aggressive soccer defensive tactic where players apply immediate pressure to opponents in possession to force turnovers high up the pitch.
- Back three
- A defensive formation in soccer using three center backs instead of the traditional two, often with wing-backs providing width.
- Set piece
- A planned play in soccer from a dead ball situation, such as a corner kick or free kick, often rehearsed to create scoring chances.
- Disease of more
- Pat Riley's phrase for the phenomenon where championship team members become more individually demanding about roles and money after winning, disrupting team chemistry.
- Trophy tour syndrome
- Doc Rivers's term for players relaxing or becoming more self-focused after winning a championship, losing the collective hunger that drove success.
- Stoic
- Calm, unemotional, and seemingly unmoved by external circumstances; used here to describe AJ Dybantsi's demeanor at the NBA Draft lottery.
- Meteoric
- Rapid and spectacular, often referring to a sudden rise in prominence; used to describe Isaiah Wagler's jump in draft rankings.
- Acrimonious
- Bitter and contentious in nature; used to describe the breakdown of the Golden State Warriors dynasty core relationships.
- Crapshoot
- A situation with a highly unpredictable outcome, often used to describe the uncertainty of mid-to-late first-round draft picks.
- Expiring (contract)
- An NBA contract in its final year, often valued in trades because it clears cap space for the acquiring team after the season.
- Trade exception
- A mechanism in the NBA CBA allowing a team to absorb a player's salary in a trade without sending back matching salary, created when a player is traded away without return salary.
Chapter 2 · 02:27
NBA Draft Questions with Tim Legler
Legler leads with Mikal Brown as his first choice after the top four — a polished scorer with range and handle projected 7-10. Simmons counterpoints with his infatuation with Acuff, comparing him to Kyrie for his creative finishing and stop-start mastery, calling him a true lead guard. Wagler gets praised for his shooting mechanics — full extension, elbow and wrist lock simultaneously — a trait that translates directly to the NBA level. Burrys earns Simmons's highest praise for his off-ball skills: coming off down screens, hips turning, releasing quickly without needing a rhythm dribble. The Clippers dilemma at #5 — they have Garland at point guard and a 35-year-old Kawhi — makes Acuff an awkward fit and Burrys a sensible option if they trade back. Steinbach is flagged as athletic and physically imposing but too limited for the top 10.
Claims made here
AJ Dybantsi is the clear #1 pick because he does everything at a high level — size, toughness, athleticism, skill — and his ceiling is still unknown. The Wizards finally have their franchise cornerstone, and no red flags from Peterson should change that.
Tim Legler and Bill Simmons both believe AJ Dybantsi is the clear-cut first pick in the 2026 NBA Draft due to his size, athleticism, toughness, and versatility.
Boozer isn't going to blow you away athletically, but his rebounding IQ, quick outlet passing, and shooting potential make him a Kevin Love clone at his peak. His floor is so high it's almost impossible to imagine him not being an impactful NBA player.
Tim Legler compared Boozer to Kevin Love, citing his rebounding IQ, quick outlet passing, and high floor as reasons he'll be a reliable NBA contributor even if not a franchise star.
Peterson went from looking like the next transcendent guard in high school to raising red flags throughout his college season. The creatine situation, the dip in athleticism, the agency drama — this is the most confounding top-3 prospect in recent memory.
Bill Simmons expressed concern that Darren Peterson appeared less athletic and less impactful in his college year than in high school, making him a uniquely difficult evaluation.
Tim Legler watched Fultz at the Steph Curry camp and saw a dominant, explosive player. What followed in Philadelphia — pressure, a mysterious shoulder injury that wrecked his mechanics, and a crowd that lost patience — is the cautionary tale every lottery organization should study.
Wilson's explosive athleticism is not something you develop — you either have it or you don't. Bill Simmons suggests Utah should trade back, still take Wilson, and collect extra assets. Being fourth in a four-man draft class only adds fuel to a player who already has endless competitive fire.
Bill Simmons suggested Wilson might end up being the best of the top four draft picks and recommended Utah try to trade back, still take Wilson, and pick up additional assets.
Acuff reminds Bill Simmons of Kyrie — creative finishing, stop-and-start mastery, true lead guard instincts. Brown is a polished scorer. Tim Legler is high on both. The problem? The Clippers at pick 5 already have a point guard in Garland and a 35-year-old Kawhi.
OKC can't pay Kayson Wallace $25-30 million because they need cheap talent around their three stars. The solution: trade Wallace and the 12th pick to the Clippers, move up to 5, and grab a top prospect. Bill Simmons walks through the math on why OKC has to move Wallace now.
Chapter 3 · 1:02:42
Harper vs. Fox
Legler refuses to walk back his claim: what Brunson did — against Vassell, Castle, Harper, Champagny, and Wemby behind them all — was mind-blowing from courtside. It wasn't athleticism. It was strength, balance, footwork, touch, IQ, and an ability to actually thrive under pressure that barely anyone possesses. The physical profile said he shouldn't be able to do this, but that's what made it remarkable. Simmons layers on the Prefontaine metaphor: the Knicks liked being down 10, liked the pressure building, knew exactly when they would make their move. The Spurs, by contrast, had no settle-down guy — Wemby isn't there yet — and eventually their will broke. A Bucks fan email triggers a brief Giannis 50-point closeout Game comparison, where Simmons distinguishes what makes Brunson's series different: the inevitability of the scoring runs.
Claims made here
Dylan Harper averaged 31 minutes per game in the NBA Finals while De'Aaron Fox averaged 36 minutes per game.
The New York Knicks were outscored in approximately 70% of series minutes during the NBA Finals yet held a 3-1 lead going into Game 5.
Bill Simmons argued that flipping the minutes between Dylan Harper (31 MPG) and De'Aaron Fox (36 MPG) in the Finals might have changed the series outcome.
Fox was making his usual shots mechanically — he was getting to his spots, his release was clean. But the ball wasn't going in. Tim Legler, sitting courtside, says that told him everything: it was entirely in Fox's head, not his body.
Dylan Harper didn't rush anything in the NBA Finals. Against elite defenders, he controlled his body, finished with English on the ball, and made it look routine. Bill Simmons doesn't think it's hyperbole to say Harper could be one of the best guards in 30 years.
Brunson didn't blow by anyone in Game 5. He out-thought them. Footwork, balance, touch, IQ — and absolute immunity to the pressure of the moment. Tim Legler calls it one of the greatest Finals performances of all time, and says watching it live was genuinely mind-blowing.
Tim Legler called Jalen Brunson's 45-point Game 5 performance against the Spurs one of the greatest Finals performances of all time, given the caliber of defenders he faced.
Tim Legler explained that Victor Wembanyama's missed 18-foot shot to win Game 1 failed partly because he fell backward instead of staying upright, a correctable youth mistake.
The Spurs were in every game of the Finals. They blew a ton of chances. Tim Legler says losing this series — this way, this close — will expedite their development faster than anything else. Nothing teaches young teams like playing in championship moments and coming up short.
Golden State makes emotional sense — give Steph one more big run. But the Celtics trading Jaylen Brown for Giannis is a move Bill Simmons can't get behind, and he thinks the Miami deal is bad for both sides. The Jaylen Brown trade he'd actually consider sends him to New Orleans.
Tim Legler noted the Knicks were outscored in 70% of the series minutes against the Spurs, making their 3-1 lead the most precarious in sports history.
Wemby runs to the rim or pops to the three. He doesn't have a reliable mid-range spot. Tim Legler says the answer is simple: give him the Duncan spot at 15-18 feet, a jab step, and the ability to either shoot or go one dribble to the rim. Add a jump hook and defenses have no answer.
Chapter 4 · 1:23:57
Favorite Giannis Landing Spot
Legler nominates Golden State from the heart — he wants Steph Curry to have meaningful playoff moments at the end of his career and Giannis would provide that. Simmons suspects Anthony Davis ends up there instead. On the Celtics trade: three-quarters of Boston's fanbase probably prefers running it back, and Simmons agrees, worried about what it does to Jaylen Brown's dynamic. Once you've tasted being the guy, can you go back to 1A? Simmons says if he's trading Brown, he'd explore New Orleans — Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, a pick, and better contract flexibility. The Miami Giannis trade makes no sense to either host: Milwaukee doesn't get enough back in the trade, and Miami doesn't know if a Giannis-Bam core can even win a playoff series given Giannis's physical mileage. The Eastern Conference picture: Simmons and Legler both believe the Knicks are the clear favorites, with Boston a strong third behind OKC and San Antonio on most lists.
Claims made here
Victor Wembanyama played approximately 29 minutes per game in the NBA Finals.
The Knicks just won the title in 5 games against a team that won 62. They were down in the Finals but kept making the key plays. Tim Legler says the Knicks should be at the top of the Eastern Conference pecking order — and is baffled that the media isn't putting them there.
Chapter 5 · 1:33:13
World Cup Talk with Anthony Dabbundo
Dabbundo nominates Germany as the fifth team to watch despite 14-1 odds — their attacking talent is formidable, but their defense has failed them for multiple World Cup cycles and a potential France clash on July 4th in Philly looms. The US bracket situation is laid out: finish first, and the round of 16 is in Santa Clara; win that, and it's Seattle July 6th; win again, quarterfinals at SoFi July 10th. Dabbundo's official prediction is the US wins their first two knockout games — potentially beating Belgium in the round of 16 for 2014 revenge — before running into Spain in the quarterfinals. He notes that with quarterfinals odds at +180, the market implies roughly a 37% chance of the US reaching the final eight. The episode closes with Simmons tipping the Sunday Netflix live show with Zach Lowe.
Claims made here
Jalen Brunson averaged 29 points per game across four consecutive playoff runs.
Arda Güler of Turkey attempted 7 shots against Australia in their World Cup group stage match, all from long range, none on target.
Tim Ream completed 7 long passes in the USMNT's match against Paraguay.
Chris Richards completed 83 of 83 passes during the USMNT's opening World Cup match against Paraguay.
Jedi Robinson had 10 assists in the Premier League season and shut down Mohamed Salah in a game against Liverpool.
Folarin Balogun had approximately 4 shots in the USMNT's first World Cup game against Paraguay and scored 2 goals.
Argentina had zero touches in Algeria's penalty area for the first 28 minutes yet led 1-0 in their World Cup match.
The Cape Verde goalkeeper went from 50,000 Instagram followers to 7.5 million after his World Cup performance holding Spain to a draw.
France was the +410 World Cup favorite on FanDuel at the time of recording, followed by Spain at 5-to-1 and England at 6-to-1.
The USMNT is listed at -220 to make the round of 16 at the 2026 World Cup on FanDuel.
The USA was listed at +180 to reach the World Cup quarterfinals on FanDuel, implying roughly a 37% probability.
Bill Simmons noted Brunson has averaged 29 points per game across four straight playoff runs, establishing him as the best player in the Eastern Conference.
The USMNT dominated Paraguay 4-1 in their World Cup opener, with Balogun scoring twice in an unexpectedly dominant performance.
Nobody — not even the most optimistic US fan — thought this game would go the way it did. The US washed away a solid South American team in the first half, with Balogun scoring twice and Pulisic torching their right back. Anthony Dabbundo was there, and he's never been this excited.
Chris Richards completed 83 of 83 passes against Paraguay and also threatened on set pieces. He plays every week on a good Premier League team without fanfare. He's the template for what the US needs more of — not superstars, just more Chris Richards-level professionals.
Chris Richards completed all 83 of his passes against Paraguay — a near-perfect defensive and passing performance described as 'the soccer defender perfect game.'
England's first half under Tuchel was tentative. Then he said forget it at halftime, brought Olise central, and they played an incredible second half. English fans had been crying out for this bravery for years under Southgate's defensive safety-first approach.
France's first half was embarrassing. Their second half showed a ceiling that no other team in the tournament has. Once Olise moved centrally and started involving Mbappé, the whole game changed instantly. France could play like this from minute one — they just choose not to.
Zlatan is physically turning his back on Lalas during the broadcast. The chemistry is nonexistent — it's like a dinner table where everyone pulled their seat number from a hat. But that's also why you can't look away. Zlatan doesn't care at all, and that honesty is electric.
Messi scored a hat trick, Mbappé scored twice, Haaland scored twice — all in one World Cup day. Then Messi's goal positioning against Algeria: he didn't even need to enter the penalty area. He just scored from 25 yards because that's what he does.
Anthony Dabbundo described a single World Cup day when Messi scored a hat trick, Mbappé scored twice, and Haaland scored twice — calling it one of the greatest days for stars in World Cup history.
The Cape Verde goalkeeper went from 50,000 Instagram followers to 7.5 million after a heroic performance holding Spain to a draw.
France entered as the World Cup favorites at +410 on FanDuel, followed by Spain at 5-to-1 and England at 6-to-1.
Bill Simmons noted the USMNT was listed at +180 to reach the quarterfinals, implying roughly a 37% chance of making the final eight.
The US ceiling is simple: go as far as you can before running into France, Spain, England, or Argentina. They can realistically reach the quarterfinals and might get a favorable draw to Belgium in the round of 16. A healthy Pulisic changes everything — an injured one changes the math entirely.
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Spurs rookie who had a transcendent NBA Finals performance, described by Bill Simmons as potentially one of the greatest guards of the last 30 years.
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Spurs starting guard who had a poor NBA Finals performance both physically and mentally, now facing an expensive contract extension amid the rise of Dylan Harper.
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Top prospect in the 2026 NBA Draft, universally expected to be selected first overall by the Washington Wizards.
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Knicks point guard described as the best player in the Eastern Conference after his 45-point Game 5 NBA Finals performance was called one of the greatest in Finals history.
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Spurs center and franchise cornerstone whose development — specifically adding a mid-range game — is identified as the key to San Antonio's future contention.
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USMNT captain and most irreplaceable player whose injury status heading into the Australia match is the team's biggest concern.
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Highly touted 2026 NBA Draft prospect whose regression from high school to college created the most confounding top-3 evaluation in recent memory.
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Fourth player in the 2026 NBA Draft top tier, praised by both Simmons and Legler for elite athleticism and competitive fire; possibly the best of the four.
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Argentina's captain who scored a hat trick in the World Cup, described as levitating above other players and operating a second and a half ahead of everyone mentally.
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Milwaukee Bucks star whose trade destination is widely speculated; discussed in the context of potential moves to Golden State, Miami, and Boston.
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Boston Celtics star whose trade value is discussed in the context of a potential Giannis acquisition; Simmons argues his psychology after tasting a starring role makes the decision complicated.
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USMNT striker who scored twice against Paraguay; described as having elite movement patterns and shot volume that distinguishes him from any previous US forward.
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USMNT center back who completed 83 of 83 passes against Paraguay, described as the template for the new generation of elite American soccer players.
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France's superstar forward who scored twice on the same World Cup day as Messi's hat trick and Haaland's brace.
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2025-26 NBA Champions who won the title in 5 games over the Spurs; Tim Legler and Bill Simmons both believe they should be the clear Eastern Conference favorites heading into next season.
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NBA Finals runner-up whose complicated three-guard situation with Fox, Harper, and Castle will define their offseason roster decisions.
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Defending NBA champions with a roster depth problem — they can't keep Kayson Wallace and all their young contributors under their three max contracts.
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Holding the #2 overall pick in the 2026 Draft; Simmons predicts they take Boozer, with the family connection and roster fit both pointing that direction.
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NBA franchise holding the #1 overall pick in the 2026 Draft, universally expected to select AJ Dybantsi as their long-awaited franchise cornerstone.
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Holding the 5th overall pick in the 2026 Draft; debate centers on whether they take Acuff (another guard alongside Garland) or trade back for Burrys plus assets.
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Claims & Sources
Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
Jalen Brunson averaged 29 points per game across four consecutive playoff runs.
The New York Knicks were outscored in approximately 70% of series minutes during the NBA Finals yet held a 3-1 lead going into Game 5.
Dylan Harper averaged 31 minutes per game in the NBA Finals while De'Aaron Fox averaged 36 minutes per game.
Chris Richards completed 83 of 83 passes during the USMNT's opening World Cup match against Paraguay.
Folarin Balogun had approximately 4 shots in the USMNT's first World Cup game against Paraguay and scored 2 goals.
France was the +410 World Cup favorite on FanDuel at the time of recording, followed by Spain at 5-to-1 and England at 6-to-1.
The USA was listed at +180 to reach the World Cup quarterfinals on FanDuel, implying roughly a 37% probability.
The Cape Verde goalkeeper went from 50,000 Instagram followers to 7.5 million after his World Cup performance holding Spain to a draw.
Argentina had zero touches in Algeria's penalty area for the first 28 minutes yet led 1-0 in their World Cup match.
Arda Güler of Turkey attempted 7 shots against Australia in their World Cup group stage match, all from long range, none on target.
Jedi Robinson had 10 assists in the Premier League season and shut down Mohamed Salah in a game against Liverpool.
Tim Ream completed 7 long passes in the USMNT's match against Paraguay.
Victor Wembanyama played approximately 29 minutes per game in the NBA Finals.
Maura played 10-13 minutes per game in his first two years at UCLA before playing 23.4 minutes per game at Michigan last season.
The USMNT is listed at -220 to make the round of 16 at the 2026 World Cup on FanDuel.