The Madonna biopic script was over 3 hours long.
Could Kathy Burke Be Bond?
The Forrest Gump sequel script was delivered to Paramount on September 10th, 2001 — one day before 9/11 killed the film for good.
The Rest Is Entertainment
Could Kathy Burke Be Bond?
The Forrest Gump sequel script was delivered to Paramount on September 10th, 2001 — one day before 9/11 killed the film for good.
TL;DR
Richard Osman and Marina Hyde tackle listener questions on film, TV, and pop culture, covering the collapse of Madonna's Universal biopic [1] — Marina Hyde "Madonna ran six A-list actresses through a gruelling boot camp — including Florence Pugh and Julia Garner — only for the project to collaps…" 06:35 , Tom and Jerry's massive popularity in China versus Winnie the Pooh's complete ban [2] — Richard Osman "After a 2013 meme compared Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh following his White House meeting with Obama, the character became one of the most…" 11:20 , the BBC's QR code TV licence stunt during the World Cup, social media vetting failures in TV and politics [3] — Marina Hyde "TV production companies use third-party firms and DBS checks to vet talent's social media, but failures keep happening. Netflix's Emilia Pe…" 21:50 , and the wild story of the unmade Forrest Gump sequel that was shelved the day after its script was delivered — September 11th, 2001 [4] — Richard Osman "The Forrest Gump sequel script landed on Paramount's desk on September 10, 2001. Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis and Eric Roth collectively agre…" 27:00 . The single most useful takeaway: sunk costs rarely justify pushing bad productions forward.
Richard Osman and Marina Hyde answer listener questions on the Madonna biopic collapse, Tom and Jerry's popularity in China, BBC licence fee QR codes, social media vetting in TV, and the ill-fated Forrest Gump sequel.
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The episode opens with a brisk Octopus Energy sponsor read, with Richard Osman and Marina Hyde marvelling at the apparently radical idea that a utility company allows customers to reply directly to its emails. The hosts riff on the absurdity of the standard 'you cannot reply to this email' message that almost every other service provider sends, framing Octopus's two-way communication as one of the great consumer advancements of the past 40 years. It's a warm, self-aware opener that signals the episode's light, conversational tone before the main Q&A begins.
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Following the Octopus Energy read, the episode runs through a series of advertisement segments. The easyJet read is the most thematically woven, with both hosts musing on the phenomenon of watching a film and being distracted by its location, imagining flights to Greece after a star-studded musical returned to the islands. There's also a clinical public health message about Peyronie's disease, a Carvana spot about buyer's remorse, and a Cancer Research UK cross-promotion for sister podcast The Rest Is Science, covering CAR-T cell therapy and the doubling of UK cancer survival rates over 50 years. The cluster ends just before the main Q&A begins.
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Marina Hyde introduces herself and Richard Osman welcomes listeners to the questions and answers edition of The Rest Is Entertainment. The format is brisk: they have lots of questions, the thanks are quick, and Osman jumps immediately to the first subject. In a single sentence, the episode signals its pace — no extended preamble, straight to business, which in this case means Madonna.
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The episode's first main question comes from Nathan Stucker, asking whether productions ever have to proceed because of sunk costs — specifically referencing the mysterious 'Madonna boot camp' mentioned in press coverage of the collapsed biopic. Marina Hyde and Richard Osman unpack the project's complicated history: it was co-written and set to be directed by Madonna herself, a dynamic both hosts view with scepticism from the outset. Six actresses — Florence Pugh, Odessa Young, Bebe Rexha, Sky Ferreira, Alexa Demie, and Julia Garner — all went through intensive boot camp training [1] — Marina Hyde "Madonna ran six A-list actresses through a gruelling boot camp — including Florence Pugh and Julia Garner — only for the project to collaps…" 06:35 , with Garner eventually winning the role. The project was then shelved during Madonna's Celebration Tour in 2023, resurrected, and has now definitively collapsed. Madonna's public explanation — that her extraordinary life required an extraordinary budget — is met with knowing laughter. Her proposal to move filming to Serbia to cut costs was rebuffed by Universal with the blunt verdict that they didn't believe she'd last four days in the country. Hyde lands the forensic observation that sunk cost logic does drive some Hollywood productions forward, but the smarter move is always to walk away before principal photography begins.
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In just a few seconds, Marina Hyde lands the definitive verdict on why the Madonna biopic was structurally doomed before a frame was shot. The control that makes Madonna one of pop's most enduring figures — her obsessive involvement in every creative decision — is precisely what disqualified her from helming a faithful account of her own life. Hyde's formulation is concise, quotable, and cuts to the heart of a tension that runs through the entire entertainment industry's relationship with living subjects and self-mythology.
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Faye Williams's question about her baffling experience watching a Chinese-produced Tom and Jerry film opens up one of the episode's richest segments. Richard Osman explains that Tom and Jerry has been on Chinese state television CCTV since 1991, airing nightly at 8PM, and became so embedded in Chinese popular culture that the country attempted to create its own rival — 'The Blue Mouse and the Big-Faced Cat' — in the mid-1990s [1] — Richard Osman "Tom and Jerry has been a fixture of Chinese state television since 1991, spawning a massive gaming franchise with 100 million users. China'…" 09:32 . It failed to dislodge the original. Today, a Tom and Jerry online game in China has 100 million users, and the franchise is huge across Asia. But the episode's most striking cultural fact arrives in the counterpoint: Winnie the Pooh, far from enjoying a similar ascent, is comprehensively banned in China. Osman traces the ban to a 2013 meme in which Xi Jinping was compared to Winnie the Pooh and Barack Obama to Tigger, following their White House meeting. Xi's furious response only intensified the satirical pile-on, and the CCP eventually moved to wipe the character from Chinese public life entirely. Osman delivers the punchline with characteristic deadpan: Winnie the Pooh is now 'just about the most banned thing that's possible to be banned in China'.
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Paul Cronin's question about the BBC's World Cup TV licence QR codes prompts Marina Hyde to deliver one of the episode's more deadpan observations. She argues that the very premise — that someone watching the second half of a football match would stop, reach for their phone, scan a code, and sign up for a licence — defies basic psychology. The sign-up numbers, she insists, are so close to zero they cannot be meaningfully charted. Richard Osman entertains a more charitable reading — perhaps it's a 'nudge unit' type awareness exercise — but concedes nobody is actually using it. The hosts briefly riff on the more effective alternative: making Ian Beale pay for a TV licence in an EastEnders plotline. Hyde then notes the underlying problem is real: roughly 10% of BBC viewers are watching without paying their licence fee, and that gap needs addressing — just not this way.
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The episode pauses for its mid-section sponsor block. The Lloyds Bank read is the most thematically integrated, with Marina Hyde and Richard Osman riffing on the cultural golden era of the 1990s — Oasis at Knebworth, the Spice Girls, Trainspotting, and the sense of optimism that made affordable mortgages feel like a birthright. The broader point is that Lloyds has reintroduced a £5,000 first-time buyer deposit mortgage not seen since 1996, based on ONS data. The block also includes cross-promotions for The Rest Is Science with a Cancer Research UK partnership on CAR-T cell therapy, along with US-market ads for UPS Store mailboxes, Mint Mobile's $15 unlimited plan, and Stitch Fix personal styling.
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Dylan Stone's question about who could simultaneously fill the UK's three high-profile vacancies — Prime Minister, James Bond, and Doctor Who — sends the episode into its most playful stretch. Marina Hyde and Richard Osman agree the answer has to come from the acting world, not politics, though Osman briefly entertains Andy Burnham on the grounds that successfully running Manchester's bus network is probably adequate preparation for a TARDIS. The real candidates are actors: Osman nominates Kathy Burke as the triple threat he'd trust most across all three roles, Ross Kemp as his perennial answer to everything, and Danny Dyer as the ideal transitional figure to 'keep the country on an even keel' during the adjustment period. Then — mid-sentence — Osman pivots to David Tennant, who has already done Doctor Who, could plausibly do Bond, and could conceivably be a Prime Minister. The exchange ends with the hosts proposing a job share — two people splitting three roles — before Osman suggests the elegant solution of simply having three different people do three different jobs, a punchline that cuts the whole segment's absurdity beautifully.
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Rosie Norton asks whether the Ashley Cain situation — where the BBC dropped a documentary after his misogynistic social media history was discovered post-production — reveals a systemic failure in vetting processes. Marina Hyde provides a detailed breakdown: the BBC uses third-party firms to check social media alongside DBS criminal record checks, because the business risk of pulling a finished documentary is enormous. But as the Emilia Perez Oscar campaign showed, even major studios with serious resources can fail spectacularly — Netflix's failure to scrutinise Carla Sofia Gascon's old posts was, in Hyde's words, 'complete amateur hour vetting'. Similarly, Disney shelved an entire completed season of The Bachelorette after star Taylor Frankie Paul's domestic violence arrest emerged post-casting. Hyde widens the lens to politics, noting Reform and its predecessor parties have repeatedly failed to vet candidates who turned out to hold extreme views, while pointing out that Peter Mandelson — despite being appointed British Ambassador to the United States — would never have cleared BBC vetting for The Apprentice due to his publicly known Epstein connection. Television, she concludes, is actually better at this than most industries, and certainly better than politics.
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Honey Clark asks whether any author has written a book sequel after their film adaptation became a hit, and whether those sequels were any good. Richard Osman zeroes in on the perfect case study: Winston Groom's 'Gump and Co.', written after the 1994 Forrest Gump film became a cultural phenomenon. The original novel had been a perfectly respectable 1986 publication; the film was beyond enormous. Groom immediately wrote a sequel featuring Forrest inventing New Coke, causing the fall of the Berlin Wall, capturing Saddam Hussein during the Gulf War, and — in the episode's most meta moment — meeting Tom Hanks himself on the set of Big, unaware that Hanks had played him in a movie. Paramount greenlighted an adaptation. Eric Roth wrote the screenplay [1] — Richard Osman "The Forrest Gump sequel script landed on Paramount's desk on September 10, 2001. Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis and Eric Roth collectively agre…" 27:00 . He delivered it on September 10th, 2001. The following morning, the Twin Towers fell. Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis, and Roth collectively agreed that a tragicomedy about a simple man blundering through American history had no meaning anymore. Marina Hyde adds a layer of cynicism: 9/11 gave the entertainment industry the perfect vocabulary to kill projects that were already looking shaky, a phenomenon she describes with characteristic precision. The Forrest Gump sequel has never been made.
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The episode closes with a warm promotional segment: Richard Osman recommends his World Cup of US Sitcoms series, currently free on the feed but moving behind the membership paywall from next week. He also mentions completed World Cups of British Bands and British Quiz Shows — the latter apparently generating considerable controversy. Marina Hyde directs listeners to therestisentertainment.com to sign up for ad-free listening and access to the full members' back catalogue. The sign-off is brief and fond, with the promise of two episodes per week regardless of membership status. The episode's final two minutes are occupied by US-market advertisements for UPS Store package security, Mint Mobile's $15 unlimited wireless plan, and Stitch Fix personal styling.
- Sunk cost
- Money already spent that cannot be recovered; the 'sunk cost fallacy' is continuing to invest in a failing project to justify prior spending rather than cutting losses.
- DBS check
- Disclosure and Barring Service check — a UK background check revealing criminal records or reasons a person may be barred from certain roles, used widely in broadcasting.
- Principal photography
- The main phase of film production when the cameras are actually rolling and the bulk of shooting takes place, as distinct from pre-production or post-production.
- CAR-T cell therapy
- A cancer treatment in which a patient's own T cells are extracted, genetically reprogrammed to recognise cancer cells, and reinfused — mentioned in a Cancer Research UK promo.
- CCTV (China)
- China Central Television — the state broadcaster of the People's Republic of China, referenced in the context of Tom and Jerry being broadcast nightly from 1991.
- CCP
- Chinese Communist Party — the ruling political party of the People's Republic of China, referenced in the context of Winnie the Pooh censorship.
- TARDIS
- The time-travelling spacecraft in the Doctor Who TV series, standing for Time And Relative Dimension In Space; used humorously to compare running a city's transport system to flying it.
- Tragicomedy
- A genre blending tragic and comic elements; used here to describe Forrest Gump and why its sequel felt tonally impossible after 9/11.
- Meta
- Self-referential; in context, describing the Gump and Co. plot twist where Forrest Gump meets Tom Hanks — the actor playing him — on a film set.
- Manosphere
- An online network of male-focused communities, often associated with anti-feminist or misogynistic views; used to describe Ashley Cain's public image and appeal.
- Nudge unit
- A behavioural insights team, originally a UK government initiative, that uses subtle prompts to influence public behaviour without mandates; referenced in the BBC TV licence QR code discussion.
- Greenlight
- To officially approve and fund a film or TV project for production; Paramount greenlighted the Forrest Gump sequel before 9/11 killed it.
- Biopic
- A biographical film dramatising the life of a real person; the episode discusses the trend for music biopics and the specific collapse of Madonna's self-directed one.
- Parted ways
- A journalistic euphemism for a contractual split or dismissal used to avoid legal risk; discussed here in the context of Madonna and Universal's falling out.
- Immunotherapy
- A cancer treatment approach that harnesses or enhances the body's own immune system to fight cancer cells, mentioned in a Cancer Research UK promotional segment.
Chapter 4 · 06:35
The Madonna Biopic: Boot Camps, Serbia & the Budget Bust-Up
The episode's first main question comes from Nathan Stucker, asking whether productions ever have to proceed because of sunk costs — specifically referencing the mysterious 'Madonna boot camp' mentioned in press coverage of the collapsed biopic. Marina Hyde and Richard Osman unpack the project's complicated history: it was co-written and set to be directed by Madonna herself, a dynamic both hosts view with scepticism from the outset. Six actresses — Florence Pugh, Odessa Young, Bebe Rexha, Sky Ferreira, Alexa Demie, and Julia Garner — all went through intensive boot camp training [1] — Marina Hyde "Madonna ran six A-list actresses through a gruelling boot camp — including Florence Pugh and Julia Garner — only for the project to collaps…" 06:35 , with Garner eventually winning the role. The project was then shelved during Madonna's Celebration Tour in 2023, resurrected, and has now definitively collapsed. Madonna's public explanation — that her extraordinary life required an extraordinary budget — is met with knowing laughter. Her proposal to move filming to Serbia to cut costs was rebuffed by Universal with the blunt verdict that they didn't believe she'd last four days in the country. Hyde lands the forensic observation that sunk cost logic does drive some Hollywood productions forward, but the smarter move is always to walk away before principal photography begins.
Claims made here
Six actresses — Florence Pugh, Odessa Young, Bebe Rexha, Sky Ferreira, Alexa Demie, and Julia Garner — went through Madonna's casting boot camp.
Madonna ran six A-list actresses through a gruelling boot camp — including Florence Pugh and Julia Garner — only for the project to collapse when Universal refused to fund the scale she demanded. Her offer to move the shoot to Serbia was met with Universal's verdict: we don't believe you'd last four days.
The Madonna biopic script was over 3 hours long, co-written and directed by Madonna herself, contributing to its collapse with Universal.
Six actresses — including Florence Pugh, Bebe Rexha, and Julia Garner — went through Madonna's boot camp before Garner was chosen for the role.
Studios sometimes greenlight failing productions because they've already spent too much to walk away — the classic sunk cost trap. But Marina Hyde argues you should always pull out before the cameras roll.
A performer writing, directing, and starring in their own story creates an impossible dynamic. The control that makes Madonna extraordinary is exactly what makes her the wrong person to oversee a film about herself.
Chapter 5 · 09:30
Why You Can Never Direct Your Own Story
In just a few seconds, Marina Hyde lands the definitive verdict on why the Madonna biopic was structurally doomed before a frame was shot. The control that makes Madonna one of pop's most enduring figures — her obsessive involvement in every creative decision — is precisely what disqualified her from helming a faithful account of her own life. Hyde's formulation is concise, quotable, and cuts to the heart of a tension that runs through the entire entertainment industry's relationship with living subjects and self-mythology.
Tom and Jerry has been a fixture of Chinese state television since 1991, spawning a massive gaming franchise with 100 million users. China's own rival cartoon — The Blue Mouse and the Big-Faced Cat — never came close to matching it.
Chapter 6 · 09:40
Tom & Jerry in China — and the Winnie the Pooh Ban
Faye Williams's question about her baffling experience watching a Chinese-produced Tom and Jerry film opens up one of the episode's richest segments. Richard Osman explains that Tom and Jerry has been on Chinese state television CCTV since 1991, airing nightly at 8PM, and became so embedded in Chinese popular culture that the country attempted to create its own rival — 'The Blue Mouse and the Big-Faced Cat' — in the mid-1990s [1] — Richard Osman "Tom and Jerry has been a fixture of Chinese state television since 1991, spawning a massive gaming franchise with 100 million users. China'…" 09:32 . It failed to dislodge the original. Today, a Tom and Jerry online game in China has 100 million users, and the franchise is huge across Asia. But the episode's most striking cultural fact arrives in the counterpoint: Winnie the Pooh, far from enjoying a similar ascent, is comprehensively banned in China. Osman traces the ban to a 2013 meme in which Xi Jinping was compared to Winnie the Pooh and Barack Obama to Tigger, following their White House meeting. Xi's furious response only intensified the satirical pile-on, and the CCP eventually moved to wipe the character from Chinese public life entirely. Osman delivers the punchline with characteristic deadpan: Winnie the Pooh is now 'just about the most banned thing that's possible to be banned in China'.
Claims made here
Tom and Jerry began airing on Chinese state television CCTV at 8PM from 1991.
China created its own rival to Tom and Jerry called 'The Blue Mouse and the Big-Faced Cat' in the mid-1990s.
A Tom and Jerry online game in China has 100 million users.
A meme comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh emerged after Xi's 2013 meeting with Barack Obama, leading to the character being banned in China.
Tom and Jerry was broadcast on Chinese state television CCTV starting in 1991, airing nightly at 8PM, cementing its huge cultural footprint in China.
In the mid-1990s China created its own rival cartoon to Tom and Jerry called 'The Blue Mouse and the Big-Faced Cat'. It never came close to matching the original, proving Tom and Jerry's timeless global appeal.
A Tom and Jerry online game in China has attracted 100 million users, though Richard Osman notes that in China's context that isn't actually that many.
After a 2013 meme compared Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh following his White House meeting with Obama, the character became one of the most comprehensively banned things in China. Images, films, and merchandise — all gone.
A 2013 meme comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh after his meeting with Obama led to the character being completely banned in China.
The BBC aired QR codes during the World Cup asking viewers to sign up for TV licences at half-time. Marina Hyde's verdict: the sign-up numbers are so close to zero they can't be meaningfully charted.
Chapter 7 · 13:00
BBC's World Cup QR Code & the TV Licence Gap
Paul Cronin's question about the BBC's World Cup TV licence QR codes prompts Marina Hyde to deliver one of the episode's more deadpan observations. She argues that the very premise — that someone watching the second half of a football match would stop, reach for their phone, scan a code, and sign up for a licence — defies basic psychology. The sign-up numbers, she insists, are so close to zero they cannot be meaningfully charted. Richard Osman entertains a more charitable reading — perhaps it's a 'nudge unit' type awareness exercise — but concedes nobody is actually using it. The hosts briefly riff on the more effective alternative: making Ian Beale pay for a TV licence in an EastEnders plotline. Hyde then notes the underlying problem is real: roughly 10% of BBC viewers are watching without paying their licence fee, and that gap needs addressing — just not this way.
Claims made here
Around 10% of the BBC's audience watch without paying the TV licence fee.
Marina Hyde estimates roughly 10% of the BBC's audience are watching without paying their TV licence fee, representing a significant funding gap.
Chapter 8 · 14:22
Sponsor: Lloyds Bank & Cross-Promos
The episode pauses for its mid-section sponsor block. The Lloyds Bank read is the most thematically integrated, with Marina Hyde and Richard Osman riffing on the cultural golden era of the 1990s — Oasis at Knebworth, the Spice Girls, Trainspotting, and the sense of optimism that made affordable mortgages feel like a birthright. The broader point is that Lloyds has reintroduced a £5,000 first-time buyer deposit mortgage not seen since 1996, based on ONS data. The block also includes cross-promotions for The Rest Is Science with a Cancer Research UK partnership on CAR-T cell therapy, along with US-market ads for UPS Store mailboxes, Mint Mobile's $15 unlimited plan, and Stitch Fix personal styling.
Claims made here
The average first-time buyer deposit in 1996 was around £5,000, based on ONS House Price Index data.
Cancer Research UK's pioneering work over 50 years has helped double cancer survival rates in the UK.
Lloyds Bank has reintroduced a £5,000 deposit mortgage for first-time buyers, a product last seen in 1996.
Chapter 9 · 17:10
Who Could Be PM, Bond and Doctor Who Simultaneously?
Dylan Stone's question about who could simultaneously fill the UK's three high-profile vacancies — Prime Minister, James Bond, and Doctor Who — sends the episode into its most playful stretch. Marina Hyde and Richard Osman agree the answer has to come from the acting world, not politics, though Osman briefly entertains Andy Burnham on the grounds that successfully running Manchester's bus network is probably adequate preparation for a TARDIS. The real candidates are actors: Osman nominates Kathy Burke as the triple threat he'd trust most across all three roles, Ross Kemp as his perennial answer to everything, and Danny Dyer as the ideal transitional figure to 'keep the country on an even keel' during the adjustment period. Then — mid-sentence — Osman pivots to David Tennant, who has already done Doctor Who, could plausibly do Bond, and could conceivably be a Prime Minister. The exchange ends with the hosts proposing a job share — two people splitting three roles — before Osman suggests the elegant solution of simply having three different people do three different jobs, a punchline that cuts the whole segment's absurdity beautifully.
The UK needs a new Prime Minister, James Bond, and Doctor Who simultaneously. Richard Osman's verdict: Kathy Burke for the full triple, Danny Dyer to steady the transitional period, and David Tennant as the most credible all-rounder.
Chapter 10 · 21:50
Social Media Vetting: How TV Does It and Why It Fails
Rosie Norton asks whether the Ashley Cain situation — where the BBC dropped a documentary after his misogynistic social media history was discovered post-production — reveals a systemic failure in vetting processes. Marina Hyde provides a detailed breakdown: the BBC uses third-party firms to check social media alongside DBS criminal record checks, because the business risk of pulling a finished documentary is enormous. But as the Emilia Perez Oscar campaign showed, even major studios with serious resources can fail spectacularly — Netflix's failure to scrutinise Carla Sofia Gascon's old posts was, in Hyde's words, 'complete amateur hour vetting'. Similarly, Disney shelved an entire completed season of The Bachelorette after star Taylor Frankie Paul's domestic violence arrest emerged post-casting. Hyde widens the lens to politics, noting Reform and its predecessor parties have repeatedly failed to vet candidates who turned out to hold extreme views, while pointing out that Peter Mandelson — despite being appointed British Ambassador to the United States — would never have cleared BBC vetting for The Apprentice due to his publicly known Epstein connection. Television, she concludes, is actually better at this than most industries, and certainly better than politics.
Claims made here
Netflix failed to properly vet Carla Sofia Gascon's social media before the Emilia Perez Oscar campaign, which derailed the campaign entirely.
TV production companies use third-party firms and DBS checks to vet talent's social media, but failures keep happening. Netflix's Emilia Perez Oscar campaign was derailed by missed posts from lead actress Carla Sofia Gascon — and it cost them everything.
Netflix failed to vet Carla Sofia Gascon's old social media before the Emilia Perez Oscar campaign, derailing it entirely — described by Marina Hyde as 'complete amateur hour'.
Disney shelved an entire completed season of The Bachelorette after breakout star Taylor Frankie Paul was found to have a domestic violence arrest that wasn't caught in vetting.
Peter Mandelson's Epstein connection was sufficiently public that he would have failed BBC social media vetting and never appeared on The Apprentice. He got the ambassador's job anyway.
Chapter 11 · 26:20
The Forrest Gump Sequel That 9/11 Killed
Honey Clark asks whether any author has written a book sequel after their film adaptation became a hit, and whether those sequels were any good. Richard Osman zeroes in on the perfect case study: Winston Groom's 'Gump and Co.', written after the 1994 Forrest Gump film became a cultural phenomenon. The original novel had been a perfectly respectable 1986 publication; the film was beyond enormous. Groom immediately wrote a sequel featuring Forrest inventing New Coke, causing the fall of the Berlin Wall, capturing Saddam Hussein during the Gulf War, and — in the episode's most meta moment — meeting Tom Hanks himself on the set of Big, unaware that Hanks had played him in a movie. Paramount greenlighted an adaptation. Eric Roth wrote the screenplay [1] — Richard Osman "The Forrest Gump sequel script landed on Paramount's desk on September 10, 2001. Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis and Eric Roth collectively agre…" 27:00 . He delivered it on September 10th, 2001. The following morning, the Twin Towers fell. Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis, and Roth collectively agreed that a tragicomedy about a simple man blundering through American history had no meaning anymore. Marina Hyde adds a layer of cynicism: 9/11 gave the entertainment industry the perfect vocabulary to kill projects that were already looking shaky, a phenomenon she describes with characteristic precision. The Forrest Gump sequel has never been made.
Claims made here
The original Forrest Gump novel was published in 1986, with the film released in 1994.
Eric Roth delivered the Forrest Gump sequel screenplay to Paramount on September 10th, 2001, one day before the 9/11 attacks.
Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis, and Eric Roth collectively agreed after 9/11 that Forrest Gump 2 had 'no meaning anymore'.
The Forrest Gump sequel script landed on Paramount's desk on September 10, 2001. Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis and Eric Roth collectively agreed the next morning that a tragicomedy about a simple man stumbling through American history had no meaning anymore.
In 'Gump and Co.', Forrest Gump invents New Coke, meets the real Tom Hanks on set while he's filming Big, causes the fall of the Berlin Wall, and captures Saddam Hussein during Gulf War I. It was greenlit by Paramount. It was never made.
Winston Groom wrote the Forrest Gump sequel 'Gump and Co.' after the 1994 movie became a massive hit, even though the original book was published in 1986.
The Forrest Gump 2 screenplay was delivered on September 10, 2001 — one day before 9/11 — which led Tom Hanks, Zemeckis and Roth to shelve it permanently.
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Subject of a collapsed Universal biopic she co-wrote and was set to direct, discussed extensively in the episode.
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UK politician and British Ambassador to the United States, cited as someone who would have failed BBC social media vetting for The Apprentice.
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Won the role of Madonna in the biopic after going through the boot camp, but the film was ultimately shelved.
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Star of Forrest Gump who, along with Zemeckis and Roth, agreed after 9/11 that the sequel had lost all meaning.
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Author of the original Forrest Gump novel and the sequel 'Gump and Co.', which Paramount greenlit for adaptation but ultimately shelved.
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Chinese leader whose perceived physical resemblance to Winnie the Pooh in a viral meme led to the character's comprehensive ban in China.
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BBC presenter whose documentary was dropped after his past social media posts containing misogynistic language were discovered post-vetting.
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Screenwriter who delivered the Forrest Gump sequel script on September 10th 2001, one day before 9/11 killed the project.
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Appeared in the 2013 meme alongside Xi Jinping as Tigger, which triggered the Winnie the Pooh ban in China.
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Lead actress of Netflix's Emilia Perez whose undiscovered old social media posts derailed the film's entire Oscar campaign.
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Actor nominated by Richard Osman as the ideal transitional figure to simultaneously be Prime Minister, Bond, and Doctor Who.
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Identified as a credible triple-threat candidate for Doctor Who, James Bond, and Prime Minister given his existing Doctor Who credentials.
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One of the six actresses who went through Madonna's casting boot camp for the biopic role.
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Nominated by Richard Osman as someone who could credibly serve as Prime Minister, Doctor Who, and James Bond simultaneously.
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Discussed in the context of a failed World Cup TV licence QR code scheme and social media vetting failures for presenters.
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The studio that parted ways with Madonna over budget disputes on her self-directed biopic.
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American cartoon that became a massive cultural institution in China via state TV broadcast and a 100-million-user online game.
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1994 film whose sequel 'Gump and Co.' was greenlit by Paramount but never made after 9/11.
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Completely banned in China after memes comparing Xi Jinping to the character spread widely from 2013 onwards.
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Location Madonna proposed as a cost-cutting filming location for her biopic, which Universal dismissed as implausible.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
The Madonna biopic script was over 3 hours long.
Six actresses — Florence Pugh, Odessa Young, Bebe Rexha, Sky Ferreira, Alexa Demie, and Julia Garner — went through Madonna's casting boot camp.
Tom and Jerry began airing on Chinese state television CCTV at 8PM from 1991.
China created its own rival to Tom and Jerry called 'The Blue Mouse and the Big-Faced Cat' in the mid-1990s.
A Tom and Jerry online game in China has 100 million users.
A meme comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh emerged after Xi's 2013 meeting with Barack Obama, leading to the character being banned in China.
Around 10% of the BBC's audience watch without paying the TV licence fee.
The average first-time buyer deposit in 1996 was around £5,000, based on ONS House Price Index data.
Eric Roth delivered the Forrest Gump sequel screenplay to Paramount on September 10th, 2001, one day before the 9/11 attacks.
Tom Hanks, Robert Zemeckis, and Eric Roth collectively agreed after 9/11 that Forrest Gump 2 had 'no meaning anymore'.
The original Forrest Gump novel was published in 1986, with the film released in 1994.
Netflix failed to properly vet Carla Sofia Gascon's social media before the Emilia Perez Oscar campaign, which derailed the campaign entirely.
Cancer Research UK's pioneering work over 50 years has helped double cancer survival rates in the UK.