The jealous wife's comment comparing Rachel to Whoopi Goldberg rather than Zendaya was suggested by several people to be racially motivated.
254: MORE Updates!
A wife sent 12 unsolicited nude photos to her personal trainer while her husband cooked Christmas dinner for her family downstairs — then told the trainer they were already divorcing.
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254: MORE Updates!
A wife sent 12 unsolicited nude photos to her personal trainer while her husband cooked Christmas dinner for her family downstairs — then told the trainer they were already divorcing.
TL;DR
Morgan Absher and guest co-host Michaela dive into five chaotic Reddit update stories on Two Hot Takes episode 254. A husband calls out his wife's racist jealousy toward his friend's younger fiancée [1] — Morgan Absher "A wife repeatedly humiliated her husband's friend's 24-year-old fiancée Rachel in public, culminating in comparing her to Whoopi Goldberg a…" 06:03 ; a dad brilliantly handles his daughter's boyfriend wearing an obscene t-shirt to Christmas dinner [2] — Morgan Absher "The boyfriend's parents were on Reddit, found the post, and called the dad to apologize. They came to dinner with the boyfriend, who brough…" 44:17 ; a wife's "crush" on her personal trainer unravels into a months-long sexting harassment campaign [3] — Morgan Absher "The husband went to the gym to confront the trainer, who revealed the wife had sent 12 photos over 3 months — including a fully naked one o…" 1:04:00 ; a woman refuses to attend her best friend's engagement party after her husband is uninvited; and two friends navigate competing romantic histories with a mutual friend. The key takeaway: closure — even messy closure — beats leaving drama unresolved.
Two Hot Takes host Morgan Absher is joined by guest co-host Michaela for a chaotic updates episode featuring five Reddit stories: a husband who calls out his wife's jealousy, a dad who sends his daughter's boyfriend to Walmart over an obscene shirt, a wife whose 'crush' on her personal trainer unravels into a harassment campaign, a woman who refuses to attend her best friend's engagement party after her husband is uninvited, and two friends navigating competing romantic histories with a mutual friend.
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Morgan thanks Michaela for co-hosting and directs listeners to the Two Hot Takes Patreon for bonus content, praising the January episodes and teasing a strong February. She offers Michaela a moderator role on the community. The episode closes with two sponsor reads: a second Sonic Frozen Refreshers ad promoting the four flavors of the new blended summer drink, and a Skims ad where Morgan personally endorses the Everyday Cotton Scoop Bralette and lightweight cotton t-shirts as summer staples, directing listeners to skims.com and asking them to note the podcast in the post-purchase survey.
- Limerence
- A state of intense infatuation or obsessive love, especially when reciprocation is uncertain; coined by psychologist Dorothy Tenov in her book 'Love and Limerence.' Used in the episode to describe the wife's one-sided obsession with her personal trainer.
- Situationship
- An informal romantic or sexual arrangement that lacks the commitment or defined status of an official relationship; used in the episode to describe the brief romantic connection between Aaron and the OP's best friend 8 years prior.
- AITA
- Abbreviation for 'Am I the Asshole,' a popular Reddit community where users post moral dilemmas and ask other users to judge who was in the wrong.
- AITAH
- A subreddit variant of AITA (Am I The Asshole Here) where users share interpersonal conflict stories and seek community judgment on their behavior.
- Microaggression
- A subtle, often unintentional statement or action that communicates a demeaning or prejudiced message to a marginalized group; used in the episode to describe the wife's Zendaya/Whoopi Goldberg comment as possibly racially motivated.
- Earworm
- A catchy piece of music or phrase that gets stuck in one's mind and keeps repeating involuntarily; used by Michaela to describe Morgan's recollection of Wendy Williams' 'denial is a river in Egypt' quote.
- Expressive aphasia
- A language disorder in which a person has difficulty expressing words or sentences coherently despite understanding them; Morgan used this term loosely to describe her recent struggles with word recall.
- Limerence support subreddit
- A Reddit community dedicated to people experiencing limerence, referenced in the episode as a resource linked by a commenter on the personal trainer story.
- Mandela effect
- A phenomenon where a large group of people share a false collective memory, believing something happened that didn't; Morgan used it to describe listener confusion over whether they'd heard a story on the podcast before.
- Stonewalling
- A communication behavior where a person refuses to engage or respond in a conversation, effectively shutting it down; used in the episode to describe the best friend's weeks-long silence as an unhealthy communication pattern.
- Frenemy
- A person who is outwardly friendly but harbors rivalry, jealousy, or hostility beneath the surface; Morgan used it to describe the dynamic between the two women in Story 4.
- Dibs
- Informal: to claim priority or exclusive rights over something or someone; used in the episode to describe the pattern of the best friend asserting romantic claims over every man in the mutual social circle.
- Angel Tree
- A charitable program, typically run around Christmas, where donors select a gift tag for a child in need and purchase gifts for them; Morgan mentioned doing Angel Tree shopping at Walmart.
- Conventionally attractive
- Conforming to widely shared or mainstream standards of physical beauty; the Reddit OP in Story 1 used this phrase repeatedly to distinguish between universal beauty standards and personal attraction.
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Morgan thanks Michaela for co-hosting and directs listeners to the Two Hot Takes Patreon for bonus content, praising the January episodes and teasing a strong February. She offers Michaela a moderator role on the community. The episode closes with two sponsor reads: a second Sonic Frozen Refreshers ad promoting the four flavors of the new blended summer drink, and a Skims ad where Morgan personally endorses the Everyday Cotton Scoop Bralette and lightweight cotton t-shirts as summer staples, directing listeners to skims.com and asking them to note the podcast in the post-purchase survey.
Claims made here
The dad in Story 2 gave the boyfriend $40 and sent him to a Walmart 3 miles away, and the boy returned in 15 minutes in a polo shirt.
The boyfriend's 21-year-old older brother gave him the obscene shirt as a gift and dared him to wear it, calling him a chicken when he objected.
The term 'limerence' was invented by psychologist Dorothy Tenov and is described in her book 'Love and Limerence.'
The wife in the personal trainer story sent 12 unsolicited photos to her trainer over a 3-month period, one of which was fully naked.
The personal trainer had already ended his professional relationship with the wife before the husband confronted him at the gym.
The wife told her personal trainer in mid-December that she had kicked her husband out and they were divorcing, which was entirely fabricated.
The best friend who uninvited the OP's husband from the engagement party had initially called them 'my favorite couple' when planning the event.
Other babies and other spouses were present at the engagement party, despite the best friend having told the OP not to bring her baby or husband.
If you've been friends with someone for 7 years, you're likely to be friends with them for the rest of your life.
Colon cancer is a leading cause of cancer death and is most common in those under 50, yet colonoscopy recommendations don't begin until age 45.
The OP in Story 5 had only ever slept with her current long-term partner and had not casually hooked up with other mutual friends despite her best friend's accusations.
A wife repeatedly humiliated her husband's friend's 24-year-old fiancée Rachel in public, culminating in comparing her to Whoopi Goldberg after a stranger said Rachel looked like Zendaya. The hosts dissect how the wife's behavior likely had racial undertones — and why the husband's public clap-back, while understandable, crossed a line by explicitly telling his wife she was jealous because 'Rachel is hotter than you.'
After the trip, the best friend Matt messaged OP to say his wife was no longer welcome at their wedding and the couple was ending the friendship if the wife remained in the picture.
The OP's best friend Matt messaged to say the wife was no longer welcome at the wedding and that she had suggested some comments were racially motivated. The wife eventually admitted her jealousy and apologized to Rachel — but the friendship was unsalvageable. The OP planned to attend the wedding alone.
A wife publicly compared a model to Whoopi Goldberg at a bar after the model was told she looked like Zendaya, which the hosts flagged as potentially racially motivated.
A dad answered the door at Christmas dinner to find his daughter's 19-year-old boyfriend wearing a shirt reading 'It's not gonna suck itself.' Rather than cause a scene, he quietly handed him $40, pointed him to a Walmart 3 miles away, and asked him to return in something respectable. The boy was back in 15 minutes in a polo shirt. The hosts unanimously praised this as a perfect response.
The dad quietly sent his daughter's boyfriend to a Walmart 3 miles away to buy a respectable shirt, and the boy was back in 15 minutes wearing a polo with no scene made.
The boyfriend admitted the obscene shirt was a gift from his 21-year-old older brother, who dared him to wear it and called him a chicken when he initially objected.
The boyfriend's parents were on Reddit, found the post, and called the dad to apologize. They came to dinner with the boyfriend, who brought roses and repaid the $40. As punishment for the older brother who dared him to wear the shirt, the mom confiscated all his clothes and replaced them with 8 bright pink t-shirts. The hosts called this a rare, genuinely happy update.
A wife confessed to her husband that she had developed an intense crush on her personal trainer — including fantasizing about him during sex, wearing revealing outfits to get his attention, and crying in her car when she saw him laugh with another client. The hosts introduce the term 'limerence' to describe this one-sided obsessive infatuation and question why she revealed so many damaging details if she hadn't acted on anything.
The couple in the personal trainer story had been together 15 years and married for 10 before the wife's obsession with her trainer led to the OP deciding to start divorce proceedings.
A commenter on the personal trainer post introduced the term 'limerence,' coined by psychologist Dorothy Tenov in her book Love and Limerence, to describe intense infatuation when reciprocation is uncertain. The hosts connect it to Michaela's observation that this kind of obsession is often a coping mechanism for personal deficits — not real love.
A Reddit commenter introduced the term 'limerence,' coined by psychologist Dorothy Tenov, to describe the wife's obsessive one-sided infatuation with her trainer.
The husband went to the gym to confront the trainer, who revealed the wife had sent 12 photos over 3 months — including a fully naked one on Christmas Day, captioned 'first Christmas alone' — while her husband cooked dinner downstairs for her family. The trainer had already dropped her as a client but was still being harassed. The husband decided to skip marriage counseling and file for divorce.
On Christmas Day, while her husband was downstairs cooking for her family, the wife sent the trainer a topless photo captioned 'first Christmas alone.'
The wife sent at least 12 unsolicited photos to her personal trainer over a 3-month period, including a fully naked one on Christmas Day while her husband cooked dinner for her family.
The personal trainer had already let the wife go as a client after she began sending unsolicited photos, yet she continued messaging and harassing him.
The wife told the personal trainer in mid-December that she had kicked her husband out and they were divorcing, fabricating the entire situation to appear available.
The OP's best friend initially invited both OP and her husband, then withdrew the husband's invitation just one week before the engagement party.
An OP refused to attend her best friend's engagement party after the friend — who had originally invited both her and her husband, calling them 'my favorite couple' — withdrew the husband's invitation just a week before. Other spouses and babies attended. Morgan and Michaela speculate the friend may have been romantically in love with the OP, wanting undivided attention at her own party.
After the OP blocked her best friend and cut contact, the friend spread a narrative in their mutual social circle claiming the OP was jealous of her engagement. The OP refuted this with the friend group. She concluded the friendship had long had unhealthy patterns of emotional pressure and decided its end was a boundary, not cruelty.
Morgan cited a popular statistic that if you've been friends with someone for 7 years, you're likely to be friends with them for the rest of your life.
An OP refused to promise her best friend of 13 years that she would never sleep with their mutual friend Aaron, with whom the best friend had a brief situationship 8 years ago. The hosts debate whether 'I'm not planning to but won't promise' is honest autonomy or a red flag, and whether the friend's request crosses into controlling behavior given additional history.
Morgan flagged a newly published report showing colon cancer is a leading cause of cancer death and is increasingly common in those under 50, yet colonoscopy recommendations don't begin until 45. She urged listeners to know the symptoms, advocate for themselves with insurers, and at minimum use a home stool test if they won't get a colonoscopy.
Morgan mentioned a recently published statistic showing colon cancer is a leading cancer cause of death and is increasingly common in those under 50, yet colonoscopy recommendations only begin at 45.
After the trip was reinstated, nothing happened between the OP and Aaron. The friend clarified she would be okay with something serious but feared casual sex creating awkwardness. The OP came away with a genuine friendship with Aaron and a new Tinder profile with dates already lined up. The hosts conclude this was a storm in a teacup for a 13-year friendship that will likely endure.
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The jealous wife compared Rachel (who had been likened to Zendaya) to Whoopi Goldberg as an insult; Morgan passionately defended Whoopi's beauty.
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A bar patron compared Rachel to Zendaya, prompting the jealous wife's racist Whoopi Goldberg clap-back in Story 1.
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Psychologist who coined the term 'limerence' in her book Love and Limerence, referenced by a Reddit commenter and discussed by Morgan and Michaela.
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Mentioned at the top of the episode when Morgan quoted her famous 'denial is a river in Egypt' line about a gay husband.
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Primary source of all stories discussed in the episode; multiple subreddits including AITA, AITAH, and r/relationshipadvice are cited.
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The dad sent his daughter's boyfriend to a nearby Walmart to buy a respectable shirt to replace the obscene one he arrived wearing.
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Episode sponsor; promotes bundling insurance with the Personal Price Plan through local agents.
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Two Hot Takes' bonus content platform where additional episodes including free stories are published monthly.
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The 1992 Whoopi Goldberg film referenced by Morgan to argue that Whoopi was stunning even in a nun's habit, defending her against the jealous wife's insult.
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The OP in Story 5 set up a Tinder profile with the help of their mutual friend Aaron after the trip, and already had dates lined up.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
Colon cancer is a leading cause of cancer death and is most common in those under 50, yet colonoscopy recommendations don't begin until age 45.
If you've been friends with someone for 7 years, you're likely to be friends with them for the rest of your life.
The term 'limerence' was invented by psychologist Dorothy Tenov and is described in her book 'Love and Limerence.'
The wife in the personal trainer story sent 12 unsolicited photos to her trainer over a 3-month period, one of which was fully naked.
The wife told her personal trainer in mid-December that she had kicked her husband out and they were divorcing, which was entirely fabricated.
The personal trainer had already ended his professional relationship with the wife before the husband confronted him at the gym.
The jealous wife's comment comparing Rachel to Whoopi Goldberg rather than Zendaya was suggested by several people to be racially motivated.
The dad in Story 2 gave the boyfriend $40 and sent him to a Walmart 3 miles away, and the boy returned in 15 minutes in a polo shirt.
The boyfriend's 21-year-old older brother gave him the obscene shirt as a gift and dared him to wear it, calling him a chicken when he objected.
The best friend who uninvited the OP's husband from the engagement party had initially called them 'my favorite couple' when planning the event.
Other babies and other spouses were present at the engagement party, despite the best friend having told the OP not to bring her baby or husband.
The OP in Story 5 had only ever slept with her current long-term partner and had not casually hooked up with other mutual friends despite her best friend's accusations.