REWORK

Podbit · REWORK

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Explore episode Aug 5, 2026

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How 37signals is embracing live sessions with customers

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For Jason, the deepest value of the live sessions isn't feature explanation — it's philosophy transfer. When customers ask how teams stay coordinated, the honest answer is often 'we don't coordinate the way you'd expect.' He walks them through 37signals' actual workflows: the What Works project where everyone shares daily updates, cross-functional teams sharing a single list of responsibilities rather than siloed task boards, and a deliberate aversion to excessive integrations. The consistently most shocking revelation is that programmers and designers work on the same to-do list in the same Basecamp project — no handoffs, no separate tools, no integrator role needed. Jason illustrated the power of this with the story of showing Basecamp to his doctor, whose practice was spending tens of thousands of dollars a month on five fragmented tools, missing information constantly, and assuming that was just the way things had to be. The demo planted a seed — not a sale, just the possibility of a different, better way.

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Kathy Sierra: out-teach vs outspend

We'll do it live · Aug 5, 2026

David invoked Kathy Sierra's principle that companies can either outspend competitors on advertising or out-teach them — 37signals chooses the latter through live demos.

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