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AI capabilities are advancing daily, so every POC risks becoming an endless feature-request loop. The fix is simple but requires discipline: define a hard end date upfront and agree on success criteria before the trial starts. If those two things are missing, the customer will keep expanding scope and you'll never close.
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Andy describes the mechanism that made Meraki's land-grab so effective: a webinar program where attending earned you a free access point. [1] — Andy McCall "Meraki couldn't beat Cisco on reputation in 2009. So they stopped trying to pitch and started shipping. Attend a webinar, get a free access…" 19:55 The logic was elegant — no amount of pitching could communicate simplicity as effectively as experiencing it. Plug it in, configure it in minutes, and the light bulb goes off. Joe asks how this translates to AI companies, where products are configurable, deployment is complex, and capabilities are evolving daily. Andy identifies the key risk: AI POCs can become open-ended science projects where buyers keep asking 'can it do this, can it do this?' because the answer is almost always 'yes, and we'll add it next sprint.' The discipline required is to resist scope expansion and pre-negotiate two things: a hard end date (30, 45, or 60 days — period) and mutually agreed success criteria defined before the trial starts. Joe adds a nuance: when automating something that has never been automated before, there's a configuration cost and a learning curve that means the product may technically work but still require significant hands-on optimization — and founders must be clear about what they're signing up to deliver versus what depends on customer adoption.
Meraki ran a webinar program where attendees received a free access point to try; the hands-on trial converted customers because experiencing simpler cloud-managed networking was more persuasive than any pitch.
Andy McCall's two non-negotiables for any POC: a hard end date (30/45/60 days) and mutually agreed success criteria defined upfront — to prevent 'science projects' that drag on indefinitely.
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Instead of fearing the self-promo ban in large Discord servers, create your own private server for your product. You funnel in ideal customers and build a relationship that email can't replicate.
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