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During the season, Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson meet every single day for up to two and a half hours. The trust that fuels those sessions was built specifically in the aftermath of the Bears' 0-2 start — and it changed everything.
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Big Cat opens by fangirling out about Caleb Williams, who good-naturedly plays along. Williams describes getting the Madden 27 cover call as a childhood dream — he tried to play it cool on the phone and immediately called his closest friends after. He dismisses the Madden curse without hesitation. The conversation shifts to his working relationship with Ben Johnson: during OTAs they meet weekly, but in season, those meetings happen every day for up to two and a half hours. [1] — Caleb Williams "Ben Johnson meetings — 1.5–2.5 hrs/day: During the season, Bears QB Caleb Williams meets one-on-one with head coach Ben Johnson every singl…" 1:03:24 Williams traces the trust built with Johnson specifically to the aftermath of the Bears' 0-2 start, when the coach's calm and direct communication changed the dynamic entirely. The offense itself, he says, didn't click until midway through the season. PFT asks about haters, and Williams delivers one of the episode's best lines: 'I love them. It's my favorite thing.' He defends his low completion percentage by explaining that his intentional throwaway rate is higher than any other QB, and reveals he has researched Peyton, Tom, and Patrick's career numbers as benchmarks.
Getting called by EA was a childhood dream Caleb tried to play cool about — then immediately called his closest friends. He doesn't believe in the Madden curse and plans to prove it by the end of the season.
During the season, Bears QB Caleb Williams meets one-on-one with head coach Ben Johnson every single day for sessions lasting between 90 minutes and 2 hours 30 minutes.
Caleb Williams says he is more surprised when plays don't work than when they do — that's his baseline. The 4th and 8 to Rome Odunze in the Packers playoff game was 'sick' but not a surprise, because when the ball leaves his hand, he already trusts the outcome.
Caleb Williams says he throws the ball away more than any other QB to keep the Bears in advantageous down-and-distance situations, knowing Ben Johnson will go for it on fourth down.
Thomas's wife deferred her CrossFit career — she's in the global top 1% of athletes — to put him through law school debt-free. He wants her to chase the dream now; she wants the emergency fund and house down payment first. On a $200K lawyer income with no debt, the opportunity cost is just a few months of slower saving.
Underground calisthenics battles are exactly like UFC meets a rap battle — 150 people crowded around a circle, fighters walking out with masks and chains, nicknames like 'Extra Money' vs 'Calisthenics the Prince,' and people throwing money and betting. The battle set: 100 burpees, 50 muscle-ups, 75 dips, 75 squats with a 65-pound dumbbell. This is the next big spectator sport.
Rico Verhoeven controlled the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion for approximately 10 rounds — and had his appeal upheld when officials admitted the fight was stopped after the bell. The result was never overturned. Rogan calls it either incompetence or corruption, and argues the money behind Usyk made an upset politically inconvenient.
Rogan lays out a blunt case: boxing's 3-judge system is structurally broken, and the judges know who the promoter wants to win. Glory's 5-judge format is the right model. Corruption doesn't have to be conscious — just knowing Usyk is the cash cow is enough to tilt the scales.
With the Usyk-Wilder fight stalling and Fury-Joshua coming too late, the real fight the world wants is the rematch. Rico is a free agent. Usyk vacated his belts. The story is unfinished and both Rogan and Rico know it. His Excellency Turki Alasheikh already called for it ringside — the question is money.
Rico texted Jason Statham during the Canelo-Crawford fight. Statham showed Rico's highlight videos to promoters. Two days later, Rico was on a call about fighting Anthony Joshua. When Joshua pulled out, Rico pitched Usyk himself — Undisputed vs. Undisputed. Usyk said yes in two weeks. The whole thing started with one text.
Every heavyweight who faced Usyk tried to move to the right — straight into his power hand. Rico and Peter Fury identified the obvious solution: move left, away from the left hand, and smother him with size. It sounds simple. Nobody had done it. That one adjustment was the foundation of 10 dominant rounds.
MMA fans boo when fights go to the ground. They love stand-up. Kickboxing is pure stand-up. Yet it barely exists in America while boxing and MMA are enormous. Rogan's diagnosis: no promotion machine. If the UFC got behind kickboxing the way they've built MMA, it would explode. The talent is there — the storytelling machine is not.
A nation of 17 million people gave the world Ramon Deckers, Peter Aerts, Badr Hari, Melvin Manhoef, Rob Kamen, Ernesto Hoost, and Rico Verhoeven. Rico's theory: the country is so small that every gym shares knowledge freely. In the US, you need a flight. In Holland, you drive 40 minutes and spar the national champion.
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