Empire: World History

Podbit · Empire: World History

374. Ken Burns on the American Revolution and Empire

Explore episode Jul 4, 2026

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Revolution, Civil War, World War — and Empire

At 7:25 · chapter starts 6:44

Anita puts the question directly: independence from empire, or the beginning of one? Burns refuses the either/or framing. The Founders chose the name 'Continental Congress' and 'Continental Army' deliberately — they knew California was out there and they wanted everything between the Atlantic and the Pacific. Washington's anguish during the post-revolutionary collapse of the states is revealing: his phrase 'drowning our rising empire in blood' shows the imperial vision was never hidden. The real cause of the Revolution, Burns insists, must go beyond the textbook answer of taxes and representation — land is the missing variable. The Revolution is the fifth global war over the prize of North America, and that prize is Native American land. And at the same time, a quarter of the population is enslaved while half the population — women — is not enfranchised by the new republic's radical ideas.

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