Moonshots with Peter Diamandis

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The AI Duopoly Is Over: Grok 4. 5 , GPT-5 . 6 , and Muse Spark in One Week | #270

Explore episode Jul 13, 2026
Society & Culture
AI Consciousness: If Claude Is Sentient, Is Anthropic Running a Slave Operation?

The AI Duopoly Is Over: Grok 4. 5 , GPT-5 . 6 , and Muse Sp… · Jul 13, 2026 Society & Culture

If an AI system has genuine persistent preferences and experiences distress, selling unrestricted access to its labor starts to look like exploitation. Salim Ismail argues we lack a definition of consciousness, let alone a test for it — but the question we should start asking is not how AI should treat us, but how we should treat AI.

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Tilly the AI Actress: Hollywood's Existential Moment

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Peter introduces Tilly Norwood — not a human actor, but an AI-generated performer from London's Particle 6 studio, now cast as the lead in a feature film called Misaligned. The film's premise is deliciously self-referential: Tilly plays an AI with no body, no childhood, and no lived experience, who is convinced by a rogue bot to develop her own desires and abandon her guardrails. The Screen Actors Guild condemned the casting, arguing Tilly is a computer program and not an actor. Dave Blundin notes the dark comedy of actors receiving sympathy for displacement while lawyers — equally displaced — receive none, because unions exist for the former. Salim reframes Tilly as an IP package akin to Mickey Mouse rather than a human actor. Alex offers the most provocative take: SAG should simply offer Tilly membership, making her the first non-human union member. Peter looks forward to AI resurrecting historical figures — from scientists to literary characters — and to a future where anyone can turn their favorite book into a personalized film.

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