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#481 – Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

Explore episode Sep 19, 2025

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Response to historian criticism

At 31:18 · chapter starts 29:37

Ohler's girlfriend pushed him to try the archives; a monocausal professor gave him the filing 'signatures' for Professor Ranke's files — the head of Army Institute for Physiology, whose job was to improve soldier performance. At the archive in Freiburg (deliberately decentralized, a post-Nazi design choice), Ohler held Ranke's handwritten war diary and original letters to the Temmler company about production timelines. The tricky part: nothing was labeled 'drugs' in the finding books; everything was catalogued by name, position, and campaign. No one had come looking for drugs before. Ohler also describes the Navy's human experiments at Sachsenhausen — the Shoe Runners Unit testing meth-cocaine combinations in chewing gum — and how Hans Mommsen, the greatest National Socialism historian of his generation, declared that historians had 'missed' the drug angle entirely.

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