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680. Can Universities Win Back Our Trust?

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Getting to Know Sian Beilock: Name, Soccer, and the Science of Choking

At 5:45 · chapter starts 4:35

The formal interview opens with a warm icebreaker: Beilock explains that her name 'Sian' stems from her parents misreading the spelling of an actress's name on a PBS documentary. She then recounts her athletic past — playing soccer in Olympic development programs and lacrosse at UCSD — before diving into her research on choking. The core insight is counterintuitive and immediately compelling: people perform worse under high-stakes conditions not because they lack talent, but because they try to consciously supervise skills that work best as automatic processes. Dubner observes that Beilock's very self-awareness about her own facial expressions risks triggering the choking effect they are discussing — a meta-moment that captures both the humor and the depth of her research.

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Why People Choke Under Pressure

680. Can Universities Win Back Our Trust? · Jul 3, 2026 Health & Fitness

Choking under pressure isn't about lacking skill — it's about trying to consciously control processes that work best on autopilot. When anxiety kicks in, people interfere with the very mechanisms that make them competent.

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