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How Trump lost the bro vote

Explore episode Jun 27, 2026

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Epstein Files: How Stonewalling Became Betrayal

At 23:20 · chapter starts 21:10

In one of the episode's sharpest exchanges, Posobiec argues that the Trump administration made a critical error on the Epstein files: they should have ripped the Band-Aid off immediately. Instead, the partial release through Pam Bondi's office created the worst of both worlds — enough disclosure to stoke suspicion, but not enough to provide resolution. Posobiec describes the Epstein allegations as having become 'an avatar of elites versus the people,' and says that by stonewalling, the Trump White House inadvertently put itself on the wrong side of that divide. Herndon presses him on why he hasn't already concluded Trump has crossed that line of betrayal, and Posobiec's answer is revealing — he says it's like a marriage with lingering issues, and the UFC event is a 'date night,' a deliberate gesture to say 'I'm putting the phone down, it's just me and you'. The metaphor lands somewhere between endearing and alarming: even a committed Trump ally frames the situation in terms of managing an ongoing trust deficit, not a problem that's been solved.

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