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Snapshot · Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 627 - No-Nog (feat. Joe Alto)
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Jul 27, 2026
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Closing: The Relay App Pitch and Final Thoughts
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The episode wraps with Joe Alto's direct pitch to listeners who are, as he puts it, 'fucking in it' — genuinely struggling and looking for tools. He directs them to joinrelay.app and shares the promo code MSSP for a free trial, with a money-back guarantee for anyone who finds it ineffective. He also teases a forthcoming newsletter called 'Take It or Leave It' (hosted on Beehive, not, he clarifies, Beyoncé's fanbase) focused on general life improvement beyond porn. Matt's sign-off is warm and characteristically self-aware: the whole conversation has modeled exactly what both men argued for — an honest, non-judgmental reckoning with something that affects a lot of men and almost nobody talks about sensibly. Matt closes by directing listeners to Spotify for new episodes.
Running the Experiment: Matt's Personal Journey Off Porn
Matt didn't quit because someone told him to. He ran a personal experiment and found out for himself. He passed the ultimate test — solo hotel weekends — a few times. Since then, the honest position has been: I've been on both sides, the side without porn is just better.
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