Snapshot · The Mel Robbins Podcast
Oz Pearlman quit a well-paying Wall Street job in 2005 to pursue mentalism full-time, a decision those around him considered fiscally irresponsible.
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Oz grew up as the child of immigrants who defined success as getting a degree, a job, and a salary. He began doing magic at 13 to escape boredom, then started working as a strolling restaurant magician at 14 — printing his own business cards and hand-cutting them — to fund new tricks after his parents' divorce. He worked on Wall Street for several years, but the pull of performing grew too strong. In 2005, he quit. Day one on the couch, he had a moment of clarity that is the engine of everything he teaches: nobody from the outside is going to make this happen. There is no vaudeville impresario who will call and make him a star. He turned off the television and started making moves. There is no playbook for becoming a mentalist — or a rock star, or a movie star — so you have to define your own goals, take small incremental quantifiable steps, and keep putting your toe in the door until it opens. Mel reflects that many people are still sitting back, waiting to be found, and argues this conversation is the permission slip to stop waiting.
At 14, getting turned away table after table, Oz developed a split-personality shield: the rejection lands on 'Oz the Magician,' not on him. When you separate your real self from the role that's being rejected, the sting disappears — and you can keep going.
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