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677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

Explore episode Jun 12, 2026

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From World Champion to NFL Analytics Pioneer

At 25:37 · chapter starts 17:40

Frigo's two world titles — separated by 29 years — are themselves a story about emotional maturation. In 1994, he was physically fresh and technically strong but hadn't yet been tested by close, gut-wrenching matches; in 2023, he leaned on decades of practice turning the page after devastating swings, celebrating each moment rather than letting the pressure accumulate. Between those wins, Frigo channeled his backgammon thinking into a real-world analytics firm. Watching NFL coaches reflexively punt on fourth down struck him as the same kind of risk-averse blunder he'd learned to exploit at the backgammon board. He and experimental physicist Chuck Bauer built a full simulation model of NFL games — running clock, penalties, scoring increments — and found that coaches were giving up even more expected value than their initial hypothesis suggested. They began licensing the model to NFL teams; eventually about 12 teams used it. The Eagles adopted it most completely, with buy-in from owner Jeff Lurie down to head coach Doug Pederson. The Chiefs' Andy Reid consulted it via analyst Mike Frazier during games. Frigo directly credits the model as a contributing factor in both franchises' Super Bowl victories.

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