After a two-week wingsuit BASE jumping trip, Andy Stumpf experienced roughly three months of mental clarity and settled focus that made him a better parent, business person, and husband.
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After a two-week wingsuit BASE jumping trip, Andy Stumpf experienced roughly three months of mental clarity and settled focus that made him a better parent, business person, and husband.
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Huberman pushes on the question of what exactly the wingsuit trips were doing neurologically. The answer, Stumpf clarifies, is not an adrenaline high — it's the opposite: a profound settling, a dialing-down of static, a clarity of thought that made him a better father, husband, and businessperson for months [1] — Andy Stumpf "People assume BASE jumping is about chasing an adrenaline rush. Andy Stumpf says the opposite is true — he hates the hyper-adrenalized feel…" 1:22:20 . Huberman draws a parallel to what Rick Rubin has described after completing albums with great artists: a post-flow peace that can last months and has no name yet in science. Their best working theory involves calibrated time perception — immersive experiences bring us so fully into each moment that upon return to ordinary life, our ability to inhabit moments is heightened rather than diminished. Huberman supports this with a recent study showing that stress specifically impairs insightful connections between memories even while leaving individual memories intact. Stumpf adds that jiu-jitsu has become his accessible version of this reset — not to the same magnitude, but enough. Both agree: whatever this post-flow state is, if you can find your way there through any legal means, it will change your life.
Two weeks of wingsuit BASE jumping trips in Europe, each jump lasting 90 seconds, gave Andy Stumpf roughly 3 months of a mental reset he calls feeling 'settled and anchored.' It's the opposite of an adrenaline high — it's a dialing-down of the static of everyday life, a clarity that made him a better father, partner, and businessman. Andrew Huberman and Andy compare this to what Rick Rubin describes after finishing an album: a post-flow peace that has no name yet in science.
People assume BASE jumping is about chasing an adrenaline rush. Andy Stumpf says the opposite is true — he hates the hyper-adrenalized feeling. What he was chasing was the profound settling, the anchoring, the static of everyday life dialing down to zero. That clarity lasted for months. That's not an adrenaline high. It's something else entirely, and it's one of the most powerful states a human being can reach.
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