Snapshot · Huberman Lab
Andy Stumpf lost contact with his oldest son for 18 months during and after his divorce — a period he described as harder than anything he endured in the SEAL Teams.
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Huberman notes that this section of Drown Proof stopped him cold — not the combat stories or the BASE jumping, but the divorce. Stumpf explains without blaming or detailing: the process was soul-crushing, and uniquely so because unlike anything in the SEAL Teams, it made him question whether he was a good enough man to continue existing [1] — Andy Stumpf "Every SEAL goes into training expecting physical suffering. Nothing prepares you for a two-year contentious divorce and 18 months of radio …" 1:03:04 . He describes the 18-month estrangement from his oldest son — the calls, the texts, the letters to his mother's house, the parking lot moments where his son would burn rubber to avoid eye contact — as the experience that made SEAL training look manageable by comparison. He credits every tool in his book for getting through it, and credits his current wife for being the one who could see something worth saving in him when he could not. He explains why he included it: the flood of emails from listeners saying 'I feel like I'm the only one dealing with this' obligated him to reveal that even the guys who do the hardest jobs on Earth are 'just fucking people.' The section closes with Huberman reflecting on his own parents' divorce and a moving exchange about the moment you realize your parents were just people doing their best with the dataset they had.
Andy Stumpf described his nearly two-year contentious divorce as the hardest thing he has ever done in his life — harder than SEAL training or combat deployments.
Every SEAL goes into training expecting physical suffering. Nothing prepares you for a two-year contentious divorce and 18 months of radio silence from your oldest child. Andy Stumpf says that was the only thing in his life that made him question whether he was a good enough man to keep going — not combat, not BASE jumping. He survived it by using every single tool he wrote about in his book.
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