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SpaceX IPO: Markets, Morals, and What It Means for You

Explore episode Jun 12, 2026

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The White House Epstein War Room

At 38:57 · chapter starts 36:23

The second half of the episode opens with Kara's detailed summary of the Haberman-Swan book excerpt: the White House Situation Room repurposed as an Epstein crisis war room, strategy debates over Tucker Carlson interviewing Ghislaine Maxwell, JD Vance wanting to go on Rogan himself, and a surreal discussion about the president's response to photographic evidence involving nipples. Dan Bongino's warning that this is Trump's Iran-Contra is cited as the voice of political clarity inside a chaotic room run by Suzy Wiles like a 'demented mother.' A Reuters poll adds weight: 75% of Americans believe the government is hiding Epstein client information. Scott is less convinced it will become a defining political issue — March focus groups ranked it 6th among voter concerns — but Kara counters that it functions like mold: it never fully disappears and is central to the QAnon-adjacent base that Vance understands better than anyone. On Gates: Scott notes the testimony was brilliantly timed to land during the SpaceX IPO, the NBA Finals, and the Iran crisis. Kara's verdict is final — Gates is permanently tarnished, his philanthropy forever carrying the Epstein asterisk.

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Bill Gates Permanently Tarnished by Epstein Affiliation

SpaceX IPO: Markets, Morals, and What It Means for You · Jun 12, 2026 News

Bill Gates testified before Congress about his Epstein ties during the busiest news week of the year — the SpaceX IPO, Iran, and the NBA Finals — making it easy to bury. But Kara Swisher argues the damage is permanent: Gates's philanthropic legacy will always carry the Epstein asterisk, and no future conversation about him will avoid it.

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